[Diversity-talk] Who Maps The World

Rory McCann rory at technomancy.org
Mon Mar 19 13:25:08 UTC 2018


Hi Charlotte,

What about amenity=childcare? There are ~12,000 of them mapped in OSM. 
Or are you thinking of something else? (I think) it's been part of
iD's presets for about 5 years[1]. It's not (yet) in JOSM's presets I
think.

I initially wondered if "kindergarten" in Germany was the same as a
childcare or creche, but apparently a German kindergarten is more like a
playschool (or kindergarden in USA).

Rory

[1] 
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/commit/26cab408e8050ec0eacefe9cfca15db95ce423b2

On 18/03/18 23:23, Charlotte Wolter wrote:
> Paul,
> 
> A kindergarten is a school, not a child-care center. They are two 
> fundamentally different things. Also, child-care centers serve a range 
> of ages, not just 5-year-olds. I, too, tried to find a real child-care 
> tag a few months ago. There is none, and "kindergarten" doesn't cut it.
> 
> Charlotte
> 
> 
> At 04:40 PM 3/15/2018, you wrote:
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>>  boundary=------------E05DE6A0022FF7C5FF3B1F54
>> Content-language: en-US
>>
>> On 3/14/2018 6:47 PM, alyssa wright wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> City Lab article below on gender disparity in OSM. I actually think 
>>> things have evolved and are more nuanced then ever before. Wondering 
>>> if I am being naive. 
>>
>> Yes. Part of the thesis of the article is based around the claims of 
>> what gets mapped. The claims in the article do not reflect reality.
>>
>> OSM has more child-care centers (amenity=kindergarten) mapped than 
>> sports arenas or sports arenas, the examples from the article. I 
>> couldn't figure out what tags Levine was talking about for strip clubs.
>>
>> For healthcare, the claims are vaguer, but as a general rule, 
>> "primary" information like something being a doctor's office, clinic, 
>> or other healthcare facility gets mapped faster than "subtag" 
>> information like what type of specialty the doctor's has. This is 
>> normal - when I'm out mapping, noting where there's a doctor's or 
>> clinic is more important than what type it is. You see the same in 
>> other subtags.
>>
>>  Looking at what healthcare facilities is tagged with that additional 
>> information, and ignoring "general", the five most popular are 
>> "Obstetrics and gynaecology", "Ophthalmology", "General (internal) 
>> medicine", "Paediatrics", and "Trauma and orthopaedic surgery". (UK 
>> terms).
>>
>> The gender percentages are interesting, and if accurate, put a much 
>> lower value on percentage of mapping that HOT does than I've seen in 
>> the past. I suspect there are some problems with different sources of 
>> numbers, and the numbers cited not being accurate.
>>
>> [1]: 
>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/healthcare%3Aspeciality#values
>>
>>
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