[GraphHopper] Bike way type conversion

Stuart Adam engaric at hotmail.com
Fri Jun 5 10:39:37 UTC 2015


Hello Peter

I am just awaiting a corporate decision on the contributor license and then I will see what I can do.

Sincerely
Stuart Adam

On 3 Jun 2015, at 08:12, Peter <graphhopper at gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi Stuart,
> 
> for me this looks also okay. So what changed is e.g. isPushingSection && bicycle=designated => before CYCLEWAY, now OTHER_SMALL_WAY?
> 
> Maybe just create a pull request and we'll see e.g. what the tests (and ratrun) says ;)
> 
> Regards,
> Peter
> 
> On 02.06.2015 17:29, Stuart Adam wrote:
>> Hello ratrun
>> 
>> I can understand the usage of a small amount of flags however I would have thought logic more akin to the following.  This would only highlight something as a cycleway if it is intentionally marked as such rather than merely having a right of way.
>> 
>> Edited in the email so apologies for any formatting issues.
>> 
>> if (way.hasTag("bicycle", intendedValues))
>> {
>>  if(isPushingSection)
>>  wayType = WayType.OTHER_SMALL_WAY
>>  else if (“cycleway”.equals(highway)) 
>>  wayType = WayType.CYCLEWAY;
>>  else if (way.hasTag(“bicycle”,”designated) 
>>      wayType = WayType.CYCLEWAY;
>>      else if (roadValues.contains(highway))
>>  wayType = WayType.ROAD;
>>  
>> 
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
>> Sincerely
>> Stuart Adam
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Jun 2015, at 16:10, ratrun <ratrun at gmx.at> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Stuart,
>>> 
>>> the waytype information is just used for the routing instructions such that a cycle rider gets a better idea what kind of way to look at. As the bits are limited and a more exact infomration is superflous for that purpose, I intentionally mangled all kind of ways somehow marked for bicycle usage together into "CYCLEWAY".
>>> 
>>> I also had some code which produced a statistic of the tour. It calcualted the distances per each paved and unpaved waytype. This code didn't make it into the master, although I think that it is an important feature for bicycle routing. The problem was that the code was too bicycle specific and required changes in all other flag encoders as well - see issue #209.
>>> 
>>> ratrun
>>> 
>>> Am 02.06.2015 um 16:17 schrieb Stuart Adam:
>>>> Hello all
>>>> 
>>>> I am starting to look at bike routing and I note in the handleBikeRelated method in BikeCommonFlagEncoder the following logic applies.
>>>> 
>>>>  if (way.hasTag("bicycle", intendedValues))
>>>>         {
>>>>             if (isPusingSection && !way.hasTag("bicycle", "designated"))
>>>>                 wayType = WayType.OTHER_SMALL_WAY;
>>>>             else
>>>>                 wayType = WayType.CYCLEWAY;
>>>>         } else if ("cycleway".equals(highway))
>>>>             wayType = WayType.CYCLEWAY;
>>>>         else if (roadValues.contains(highway))
>>>>             wayType = WayType.ROAD;
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This does not seem correct to me as from my understanding this is taking the fact that a way has been marked as having a right of way for bicycles (but not a pushing section) then it is a full blown cyclepath.  In my mind at least cycleway implies dedicated and marked (normally with differently coloured tarmac) sections which is a much stronger indication for cycle use than just a bicycle right of way.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am I correct and if so should this be changed or was there a reason for this decision in Graphhopper.
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely
>>>> Stuart Adam
> 
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