[OHM] Possibility to use the OHM to save vectors of ways and buildings of São Paulo between 1870 and 1940

Thu Oct 19 05:33:16 UTC 2017

The "layers" have not been updated in a long time. Only the OHM layer is currently updated. 

However, a minute feed of the OHM updates is available at http://dump.openhistoricalmap.org/data_minute/ that can be used to create a series of layers 1870 to 1940.

-R

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Rodrigo M. Mariano <rodrigo.mariano at inpe.br> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
>  
> Do you know the layers of OHM (2008 and 2009)? So, one idea that we have is to
> 
> provide a initial layer to the years 1870 to 1940, one layer per decade.
> 
> I send a image in attach illustring the map layers of OHM.
> 
>  
> Regards,
> 
> Rodrigo
> 
>  
> Em 18-10-2017 22:29, Rodrigo M. Mariano escreveu:
> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>>  
>> I have already done these topics.
>> 
>> The permissions, that I said, is about editing data by API.
>> 
>> I can get the OHM data by API, however I can't add any data.
>> 
>>  
>> For example:
>> 
>> In the images that I send in attach, I show a piece of code that I can get a way by API.
>> 
>> But when I attemped to add a new node, I got a error: "osmapi.OsmApi.ApiError: Request
>> 
>> failed: 401 - Unauthorized - b"Couldn't authenticate you""
>> 
>>  
>> We would like permission to add data by API, because we are developing a web site for
>> 
>> people insert historical data and we would like to save in OHM.
>> 
>>  
>> In this case, the people will vectorize the old maps of São Paulo between 1870 to 1940,
>> 
>> how described in [1]. The project is called Pauliceia [1][2]. It is a project of INPE, from Brazil.
>> 
>>  
>> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pauliceia2.0
>> 
>> [2] https://wiki.dpi.inpe.br/pauliceia/doku.php
>> 
>>  
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Rodrigo
>> 
>>  
>> On 18/10/2017 17:09, Tim Waters wrote:
>>> Hi Rodrigo,
>>>  
>>> if you are familiar with editing with OpenStreetMap, then this should be very similar.
>>>  
>>> first you would need to register as a new user on openhistoricalmap.org and then use JOSM editor to authenticate to the server, like you would as a new user for OSM but changing the api to point to the OHM server.
>>> The API is open to all registered users, no special permissions are required.
>>> "osmapi" is a python script that is written for OSM in mind. Most people use JOSM or the iD editor, and do it by hand.
>>>  
>>> I haven't used "osmapi", but it looks like it might work with OHM.
>>> Tim
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 18 October 2017 at 12:09, Rodrigo M. Mariano <rodrigo.mariano at inpe.br> wrote:
>>> Hello Rob,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I thought that was not necessary to put "http" in the start of string,
>>> 
>>> because on [1] the API URL is without "http".
>>> 
>>> Thank you to much for the idea, it worked. :-D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How could I insert data by API? I need permission, right?
>>> 
>>> Can I talking about it here or with specific someone?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmapi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> Rodrigo
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Em 18-10-2017 03:44, Rob H Warren escreveu:
>>> 
>>> Rodrigo,
>>> 
>>> Reading the error messages, you should be entering 
>>> http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/ instead of just www.openhistoricalmap.org?
>>> On Oct 17, 2017, at 5:36 PM, Rodrigo M. Mariano <rodrigo.mariano at inpe.br> wrote: Hello Rob, Thanks for the explanation. I tried to do it with the OsmApi, pointing to OHM, however I got some warnings, rather than a result. I send a picture (osmapi_ohm.png) showing the warning message. I attemped with the OSM default and it works, but when I tried to change to OHM URL, it doesn't work. Is there other URL to point? Or is this even? PS: in the photo, I tested with a valid id of way Best Regards, Rodrigo Em 14-10-2017 19:46, Rob H Warren escreveu:
>>> Rodrigo, Open Historical Map uses the same code as OSM, as long as you point your tool to the open historical website, you can use anything you want. JOSM can be used to upload / edit, just change the API hostname in the configuration panel. -rhw
>>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Rodrigo M. Mariano <rodrigo.mariano at inpe.br> wrote: Hello Rob, Thanks for your opinion. Yes, we want to add tags (e.g. start_date=* and end_date=*) and sources of the data. Is there some API that we can use to make the upload (like osmapi)? Or only in web page? Best regards, Rodrigo Em 10-10-2017 14:34, Rob H Warren escreveu:
>>> Rodrigo, I think this is a very worthwhile project. You're welcome to upload ways as you see fit. Strongly suggest you add date and source tags to your edits so that the time period of the buildings is obvious to future renderers? -rhw
>>> Hello OpenHistoricalMap, We have a project called Pauliceia [1], that its aim is to vectorize the city of São Paulo between 1870 and 1940, being one map per decade. We would like to vectorize the ways and the buildings in this period. We would like to know: could we use the OHM to save the data? To contribuite with the OHM project. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pauliceia2.0 Thanks in advance, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/historic/attachments/20171008/049b07dc/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Historic mailing list Historic at openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic ------------------------------ End of Historic Digest, Vol 54, Issue 1 ***************************************
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>> Rodrigo M. Mariano
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>> Departamento de Tecnologia da Informação do Laboratório Associado de Computação e Matemática Aplicada - LAC
>> Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espaciais - INPE
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>> Rodrigo M. Mariano
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>> Mestrando em Computação Aplicada
>> Departamento de Tecnologia da Informação do Laboratório Associado de Computação e Matemática Aplicada - LAC
>> Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espaciais - INPE
>> Av. dos Astronautas, 1.758 - Jardim da Granja
>> CEP: 12227-010 - São José dos Campos/SP.
>> Tel.: (12) 3208-6544
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> Rodrigo M. Mariano
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> 
> Mestrando em Computação Aplicada
> Departamento de Tecnologia da Informação do Laboratório Associado de Computação e Matemática Aplicada - LAC
> Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espaciais - INPE
> Av. dos Astronautas, 1.758 - Jardim da Granja
> CEP: 12227-010 - São José dos Campos/SP.
> Tel.: (12) 3208-6544
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