[OHM] Possibility to use the OHM to save vectors of ways and buildings of São Paulo between 1870 and 1940

Thu Oct 19 00:39:32 UTC 2017

Hi Tim, 

Do you know the layers of OHM (2008 and 2009)? So, one
idea that we have is to 

provide a initial layer to the years 1870 to
1940, one layer per decade. 

I send a image in attach illustring the
map layers of OHM. 

Regards, 

Rodrigo 

Em 18-10-2017 22:29, Rodrigo
M. Mariano escreveu: 

> Hi Tim, 
> 
> I have already done these topics.

> 
> The permissions, that I said, is about editing data by API. 
> 
>
I can get the OHM data by API, however I can't add any data. 
> 
> For
example: 
> 
> In the images that I send in attach, I show a piece of
code that I can get a way by API. 
> 
> But when I attemped to add a new
node, I got a error: "osmapi.OsmApi.ApiError: Request 
> 
> failed: 401
- Unauthorized - b"Couldn't authenticate you"" 
> 
> We would like
permission to add data by API, because we are developing a web site for

> 
> people insert historical data and we would like to save in OHM. 
>

> In this case, the people will vectorize the old maps of São Paulo
between 1870 to 1940, 
> 
> how described in [1]. The project is called
Pauliceia [1][2]. It is a project of INPE, from Brazil. 
> 
> [1]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pauliceia2.0 
> 
> [2]
https://wiki.dpi.inpe.br/pauliceia/doku.php 
> 
> Best Regards, 
> 
>
Rodrigo 
> 
> On 18/10/2017 17:09, Tim Waters wrote: 
> 
>> Hi Rodrigo,

>> 
>> if you are familiar with editing with OpenStreetMap, then this
should be very similar. 
>> first you would need to register as a new
user on openhistoricalmap.org [7] and then use JOSM editor to
authenticate to the server, like you would as a new user for OSM but
changing the api to point to the OHM server. The API is open to all
registered users, no special permissions are required. "osmapi" is a
python script that is written for OSM in mind. Most people use JOSM or
the iD editor, and do it by hand. 
>> 
>> I haven't used "osmapi", but
it looks like it might work with OHM. Tim
>> 
>> On 18 October 2017 at
12:09, Rodrigo M. Mariano <rodrigo.mariano at inpe.br> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello
Rob,
>>> 
>>> I thought that was not necessary to put "http" in the
start of string,
>>> 
>>> because on [1] the API URL is without
"http".
>>> 
>>> Thank you to much for the idea, it worked. :-D
>>> 
>>>
How could I insert data by API? I need permission, right?
>>> 
>>> Can I
talking about it here or with specific someone?
>>> 
>>> [1]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmapi [6]
>>> 
>>> Thanks in
advance,
>>> 
>>> Rodrigo 
>>> 
>>> Em 18-10-2017 03:44, Rob H Warren
escreveu: 
>>> 
>>>> Rodrigo,
>>>> 
>>>> Reading the error messages, you
should be entering http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/ [4] instead of just
www.openhistoricalmap.org [5]?
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 17, 2017, at 5:36 PM,
Rodrigo M. Mariano <rodrigo.mariano at inpe.br> wrote: Hello Rob, Thanks
for the explanation. I tried to do it with the OsmApi, pointing to OHM,
however I got some warnings, rather than a result. I send a picture
(osmapi_ohm.png) showing the warning message. I attemped with the OSM
default and it works, but when I tried to change to OHM URL, it doesn't
work. Is there other URL to point? Or is this even? PS: in the photo, I
tested with a valid id of way Best Regards, Rodrigo Em 14-10-2017 19:46,
Rob H Warren escreveu: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rodrigo, Open Historical Map uses
the same code as OSM, as long as you point your tool to the open
historical website, you can use anything you want. JOSM can be used to
upload / edit, just change the API hostname in the configuration panel.
-rhw 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 14, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Rodrigo M. Mariano
<rodrigo.mariano at inpe.br> wrote: Hello Rob, Thanks for your opinion.
Yes, we want to add tags (e.g. start_date=* and end_date=*) and sources
of the data. Is there some API that we can use to make the upload (like
osmapi)? Or only in web page? Best regards, Rodrigo Em 10-10-2017 14:34,
Rob H Warren escreveu: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Rodrigo, I think this is a
very worthwhile project. You're welcome to upload ways as you see fit.
Strongly suggest you add date and source tags to your edits so that the
time period of the buildings is obvious to future renderers? -rhw

>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello OpenHistoricalMap, We have a project called
Pauliceia [1], that its aim is to vectorize the city of São Paulo
between 1870 and 1940, being one map per decade. We would like to
vectorize the ways and the buildings in this period. We would like to
know: could we use the OHM to save the data? To contribuite with the OHM
project. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pauliceia2.0 [1] Thanks
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Departamento de Tecnologia da Informação do Laboratório
Associado de Computação e Matemática Aplicada - LAC
Instituto Nacional
de Pesquisas Espaciais - INPE
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