[HOT] Samoa Simulation

Mike Dupont jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com
Sun Dec 4 07:33:17 GMT 2011


Ok guys,
Thanks for the answers, I think I understand.
mike

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>wrote:

> **
> Forwarding Dave's answer to the list, to which it was copied, but maybe he
> is not subscribed.
>
> I think Dave's answer makes the intents clear.
>
> Mike, I am not a lawyer, and your jurisdiction may vary, but since you ask
> for an explanation: technically, I don't think that using a dataset to
> check or adjust the position of imagery is enough to make mapping traced
> from the imagery a derived work of the dataset (in the sense that it would
> convey legal rights).
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
>
> -------- Message original --------  Sujet: Re: [HOT] Samoa Simulation  Date :
> Sat, 3 Dec 2011 15:18:20 -1000  De : Dave Leng <heal.ltd at gmail.com><heal.ltd at gmail.com>  Pour :
> Mike Dupont <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com><jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com>  Copie
> à : Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com> <jgc at arkemie.com>, HOT
> Openstreetmap <hot at openstreetmap.org> <hot at openstreetmap.org>
>
>
> It means you don't have license to use them in anything else.
> I'm working on an idea that will get us license free information which OSM
> will be able to use.
> I really want to see OSM have a comprehensive map of Samoa as its not
> really workable without having that universal access
>
>  Dave
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Mike Dupont <
> jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> please explain,
>> you are saying all the derived work from the images are not to be
>> reused... :(
>> > This information is only to be used for the simulation.
>> >
>> > Thus, it cannot be imported into OSM, or copied.
>> >
>> > It should however be possible to use it, for example, for adjusting the
>> > offset of satellite imagery (it seems to fit pretty well with the
>> existing
>> > OSM data), before tracing from the imagery.
>>
>>  so you have some images that can be used and you want to use the other
>> unusable images to make the usable ones more usable,
>> or am I just confused. please explain
>> thanks
>> mike
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > A Samoa road layer, from 1999 aerial photos, from the Samoa Ministry of
>> > Natural Resources and Environment, was made available though Dave Leng,
>> Kate
>> > and Pierre B.
>> >
>> > This information is only to be used for the simulation.
>> >
>> > Thus, it cannot be imported into OSM, or copied.
>> >
>> > It should however be possible to use it, for example, for adjusting the
>> > offset of satellite imagery (it seems to fit pretty well with the
>> existing
>> > OSM data), before tracing from the imagery.
>> >
>> >
>> > You can view this layer (as an overlay) on :
>> > http://pierzen.dev.openstreetmap.org/hot/openlayers/samoa.htm
>> > or
>> > http://osm.arkemie.org/samoa/
>> >
>> > Note that the file is relatively large for OpenLayers online rendering
>> (6.3
>> > MB), so it is advised to  zoom in as much as possible first, before
>> toggling
>> > this layer on. Otherwise you might bring your browser to a crawl. Then
>> you
>> > can zoom out if you want.
>> >
>> >
>> > The data file itself is available as
>> > http://pierzen.dev.openstreetmap.org/doc/road_1999.kmz
>> >
>> > It was converted from .kml to .osm with ogr2osm [1], for example, to be
>> > viewed as an overview layer in JOSM. A resulting file is at
>> > http://pierzen.dev.openstreetmap.org/doc/road_1999.osm.zip
>> >
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> >
>> > Jean-Guilhem
>> >
>> >
>> > [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ogr2osm
>> >
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