[HOT] H.O.T OSM manual and learning OSM in Uganda

Daniel Oefele oefele at googlemail.com
Tue Dec 13 12:25:11 GMT 2011

Hi Emir.


Thanks for the offer. A presentation in Bahasa Indonesia would be very


Some other questions:


Can we support you translating the rest of JOSM into Bahasa Indonesia?

Is HOT planning to set up more presets specialy for Indonesia? I am
especially thinking about Health, Education, Water and Sanitation. For our
mapping in east Indonesia thats the kind of information that is needed most.

I think about tags for health facilities in different administrative levels
(Desa, Kecamatan, Kabupaten/Kota, Provinsi). If we would have a had tag for
administrative level we could combine that with a more general tag for
health facilities. Same could be done for education, government offices and

What do you think about that? Is there maybe a tagging option already I
don't know about - especially the health tags are a bit confusing on the


Cheers Daniel


From: Emir Hartato [mailto:emir.hartato at gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 Desember 2011 19:26
To: Daniel Oefele
Cc: Douglas Musaazi; hot
Subject: Re: [HOT] H.O.T OSM manual and learning OSM in Uganda


Hi Douglas,


I am working as an intern with HOT for pilot in Indonesia.


I agree with with Daniel, using Potlatch is not an option for us. But I
believe we included a little introduction to Potlatch 2 and how to adding
POI to the map. And in my opinion, using JOSM is better than Potlatch:

1. Works offline and you can save your work

2. Avoid mistakes by using validation tools

3. Plugins which makes your edit easier

4. Tagging presets (you can make your own preset and put it on JOSM)

5. You can translate JOSM into your own local language, we did translate
half of it into Bahasa Indonesia 

..and more features


But it you feel using Potlatch is more comfortable, well that is up to you

Anyway, I did check on those link, some of lines are overlapped, but
buildings are good =)


And I agree with Daniel, you should create tasking manager because most of
overlapped objects are caused by multiple edit (same area of interest at the
same time). Or, simply, before you starting your mapping day:

1. Print the whole area that you want to be mapped by clicking Export tab on
OSM site

2. Divide those area by drawing grids on the printed map. For example, if
you have 4 surveyors then you might want to divide it into 4 grids)

3. Now each surveyor has a specific area to map, and when they put the data
into OSM, it should be okay now. A minor edit would be needed to connect all
the map =)


Good luck Douglas! :)


And for Daniel, we have introduction slides. Do you need it in English or
Bahasa? I only have Bahasa version, ask Kate if you want English one :)



Best Regards,
Emir Hartato

Departement of Geography
University of Indonesia
Ph: +628567755182
t: @emirhartato



On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Daniel Oefele <oefele at googlemail.com>

Hi Douglas.


The links look good. I am working in Kupang, East Indonesia and also
training people (government, NGOs, students) how to use OSM and JOSM.
Postlach is for us not an option - internet access is not fast and stable
enough. We are working with the HOT training material as well (in Bahasa
Indonesia). What is missing so far are some slides for a introduction - do
you have some power points you want to share? I usually start the training
with some of the videos from http://geospatialrevolution.psu.edu/ 

What could be interessting for you is the Tasking Manager (probably you know
it already) to avoid overlapping edits on your mapping days. We have a task
for Kupang (http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/5) and its really impressiv to see
how many different people are  mapping here even though its not a desaster


Happy mapping



From: Douglas Musaazi [mailto:douglasmusaazi at yahoo.com] 
Sent: 13 Desember 2011 17:24
To: hot at openstreetmap.org
Cc: talk at openstreetmap.org
Subject: [HOT] H.O.T OSM manual and learning OSM in Uganda


Hi all,


We have started training some people about how to go about OSM, using the
H.O.T training manual. JOSM is a good editor, but  was wondering why it's
the only one that was included in the manual.

Otherwise the manual is concise, we are even including potlatch 2 as one of
the training topics, among others and by the end of the training, we hope we
would have well skilled people who will be contributing to providing
geographical data to the open street world map.


Fruits of thought (http://www.fruitsofthought.org) supports the mapping days
(http://www.mappingday.com) that are held at given intervals in a year, to
introduce mapping and the open street map to the participants, the features
mapped on a mapping day can take a while to be fully updated correctly as
most of the participants are new to OSM, we hope, after the training we
shall have some more people who will have a better understanding of what OSM
is all about.


Notable edits in some of the selected areas of Uganda include:









These are just some of the links that can be identified, and is not an
exhausted list of all the edits, there might be some that we do not know of,
but during the mapping day we covered some of the links above, and in some
of the areas correcting and editing features is still in progress. However
it is clear that there is more work that needs to be done, but the good part
is that the mapping community continues to grow.


If you can spare some time and visit the above links, it would be good to
have a feed back from you. There is just one link that was edited with JOSM,
which can easily be identified, and the rest with potlatch.


Yours Truly

Douglas Ssebaggala Musaazi
Mobile:   +256-772-422524 <tel:%2B256-772-422524> 

https://twitter.com/mapuganda <http://www.mappingday.com/> 
https://twitter.com/Douglo2011 <http://www.openstreetmap.org/> 

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