[HOT] Fwd: 2011-10-23 10:41:21 (M 7.3) EASTERN TURKEY 38.6 43.5 (378fb)

Frank Fesevur ffes at users.sourceforge.net
Mon Oct 24 08:53:35 BST 2011


I have been tracing in JOSM without any offset as well. I was not aware this
was needed. I even "fixed" a small suburb but that was tracing in April of
this year. So sorry if I messed things up.

Regards,
Frank


2011/10/24 Floris Looijesteijn <osm at floris.nu>

> I have also been tracing without adjusting the offset, sorry...
>
> I only noticed it when I saw some existing traces in Kurubas, I was able to
> determine the offset pretty accurate with those.
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=38.45463&lon=43.40982&zoom=17&layers=M
>
> Also, I have been traving with highway=road (and a few highway=track) but
> apparently I am one of the few doing that.
> What's the policy on that?
>
> Still some work to do in the south of Bing coverage BTW.
>
> Greets,
> Floris Looijesteijn
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>wrote:
>
>> **
>> Hi Maning,
>>
>> If I remember correctly, Bing imagery had a slight offset relative to the
>> streets that were present before yesterday. So it is likely that Bing offset
>> should be adjusted, maybe relative to a coherent set of "older" streets in
>> the center, assuming that maybe a local mapper had been able to have them
>> better referenced, maybe using GPS traces that were not uploaded. (These are
>> many "maybes", and just a quick guess without having looked closely at the
>> data. Anyway, it should be in OSM "best practices" to start with adjusting
>> the imagery offset to existing data, before tracing from it - unless one has
>> a good reason to think that the existing OSM data itself was offset).
>>
>>
>> Many thanks to all those who helped and are still helping. I see that
>> building are also starting to appear. You are awesome!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jean-Guilhem
>>
>>
>> Le 24/10/2011 06:09, maning sambale a écrit :
>>
>> Any advice on the offset?  I notice some are tracing directly from the
>> imagery without changing offset, while other roads seems to have an offset.
>> Not sure which edits should be followed.
>>
>> There are a few traces, but too few to serve as reference.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Harry Wood <mail at harrywood.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>  I've set up a wiki page for this here:
>>>  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turkey_Earthquake_2011
>>>
>>>  Looks like there's not much bing tracing left to do for the city of Van
>>> (someone's been busy!)
>>>
>>>
>>>   ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com>
>>> *To:* Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>
>>> *Cc:* HOT <hot at openstreetmap.org>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 23 October 2011, 22:34
>>> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Fwd: 2011-10-23 10:41:21 (M 7.3) EASTERN TURKEY
>>> 38.6 43.5 (378fb)
>>>
>>>  If someone would like to setup tasks for this I can make them admin on
>>> the tasking server and explain how it works.
>>> Kate
>>> On Oct 23, 2011 6:25 AM, "Jean-Guilhem Cailton" <jgc at arkemie.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> There was a strong earthquake in eastern Turkey, near Van.
>>>
>>> USGS raises a "Red alert for shaking-related fatalities and economic
>>> losses. High casualties and extensive damage are probable and the disaster
>>> is likely widespread. Past red alerts have required a national or
>>> international response. Estimated economic losses are 0-4% GDP of Turkey. "
>>>
>>> A high resolution Bing image of Van is available, and more streets could
>>> be traced from it.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Jean-Guilhem
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Message original --------  Sujet: 2011-10-23 10:41:21 (M 7.3)
>>> EASTERN TURKEY 38.6 43.5 (378fb)  Date : Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:16:21 +0000
>>> (UTC)  De : ens at usgs.gov (USGS ENS)  Répondre à : <ens at usgs.gov><ens at usgs.gov>  Pour :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Globe with Earthquake Location]<http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/usb0006bqc.php#maps> 7.3
>>> M - EASTERN TURKEY  Preliminary Earthquake Report  Magnitude<http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/glossary.php#magnitude> 7.3
>>> M  Date-Time <http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/glossary.php#date>
>>>
>>>    - 23 Oct 2011 10:41:21 UTC
>>>    - 23 Oct 2011 13:41:21 near epicenter
>>>    - 23 Oct 2011 11:41:21 standard time in your timezone
>>>
>>>   Location <http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/glossary.php#location> 38.627N
>>> 43.534E  Depth <http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/glossary.php#depth> 7
>>> km  Distances<http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/glossary.php#distances>
>>>
>>>    - 19 km (12 miles) NE (43 degrees) of Van, Turkey
>>>    - 116 km (72 miles) N (351 degrees) of Hakkari, Turkey
>>>    - 130 km (81 miles) SSE (161 degrees) of Karakose (Agri), Turkey
>>>    - 192 km (119 miles) SSW (206 degrees) of YEREVAN, Armenia
>>>
>>>   Location Uncertainty<http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/glossary.php#uncertainty> Horizontal:
>>> ; Vertical  Parameters<http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/glossary.php#parameters> Nph
>>> = 0; Dmin = ; Rmss = ; Gp = 0°
>>> M-type = M; Version = 1  Event ID<http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/glossary.php#eventid> US
>>> b0006bqc
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