[HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 19, Issue 29

Walter Svekla wsvekla at gmail.com
Fri Sep 30 14:43:00 BST 2011

A couple of questions, perhaps to catalyze more thinking along these lines:

1. What do you consider to be HOT's top 2 or 3 unique abilities (relative to
other organizations)?

2. Can anyone imagine or envision an "ideal" development project (even
hypothetically) for which HOT would be particularly.


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>   1. Re: HOT's Mission (Mikel Maron)
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> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:13:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com>
> To: Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com>, hot <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] HOT's Mission
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> I'm going to present a different point of view on this question.
> First, I'm totally philosophically aligned with what I've heard so far. The
> lines between "disaster" and "development" are somewhat arbitrary, and the
> international organizational structures do reflect this, to the detriment of
> response. Following a sudden onset disaster, when is a disaster officially
> "over", and how have the problems changed? Pre-disaster, how can communities
> be made more resilient to future crisis? A more developed country would
> usually have a better response to disaster (though I'm not sure, ex.
> Hurricane Katrina and the panic over a little quake in DC). Knowing when a
> disaster starts is also a decision in many cases, such as famines [
> http://hot.openstreetmap.org/weblog/2011/08/activation-in-somalia/].
> OSM has a unique ability to bridge these divisions ... open data persists
> throughout all stages of a crisis, and to a great extent, the activity in
> similar.
> That said, disaster response does have unique characteristics. The urgency
> of the situation, the particular kinds of things that need mapping, the
> activities that need maps ... this is the raison d'etre of HOT, and it's
> very complicated. The discussions on what counts as an "activation" address
> these issues.
> I promised a different point of view, and haven't really given that so far.
> My concern is very practical, for HOT as an organization taking on
> projects. OSM and HOT as a community, I see as most definitely taking part
> in "development" efforts. The question in my mind is how HOT as an
> organization would take on funded development projects. What criteria do we
> apply to judge a project as being useful to HOT's mission? The projects HOT
> has been involved in so far are more clearly in post-disaster recovery (in
> Haiti, in organizational support to COSMHA) and in disaster risk reduction
> (Indonesia).
> "Development" as a field encompasses so many different kinds of things.
> Infrastructure development, health, governance ... every sector you can
> think of. As Lisa Sweeney mentioned "education can be considered part of
> development". The types of projects this opens up is so intensely varied,
> and while this is an opportunity, it is also a concern.
> HOT needs to be able to respond. How that balances with ongoing projects is
> already a question. How do we judge what kinds of things are appropriate,
> and how do we ensure that HOT as an organization and community is not
> overwhelmed by new activities. I don't have any answers, but only think we
> need to carefully think about the practical impacts that a clearly expanded
> mission creates.
> -Mikel
> == Mikel Maron ==
> +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
> >________________________________
> >From: Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com>
> >To: hot <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 12:37 AM
> >Subject: [HOT] HOT's Mission
> >
> >Hey All,
> >
> >So when we incorporated HOT as an official entity the mission
> >statement was "Using OpenStreetMap for Disaster Response and Economic
> >Development."
> >
> >We've also recently talked about the difference between activations
> >and projects as well.? Meaning that activations are in response to an
> >event and projects are longer term work in preparedness or rebuilding
> >for examples.? (Indonesia and Haiti being examples of this)
> >
> >Sometimes other projects are suggested more in the realm of
> >development projects.? I don't think there is an argument that having
> >better maps in developing areas can help people, but is this within
> >the scope of HOT?? Is it within the realm of what HOT wants to do or
> >is that "mission creep"?
> >
> >Some of us on the board have discussed this, but really it is
> >something that should come from the HOT membership
>  and community.
> >
> >Anyway, we are interested in obtaining some feedback and having a
> >discussion through the mailing list.? I will also put it on the agenda
> >for the next HOT chat.
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >-Kate
> >
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