[HOT] [OSM-talk] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions.

Kate Chapman kate at maploser.com
Fri Feb 3 01:18:14 GMT 2012

Much of this data has already been ground surveyed.  Would it be
possible based on the source tags to mark things odbl=clean?

I think that would take care of a large majority of the problem, since
there has been so much on the ground work since the earthquake.


On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Michael Collinson <mike at ayeltd.biz> wrote:
> On 02/02/2012 16:23, Larry O'Neill wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> Apologies for any overlap in recipients for this - I very rarely post to
>> mailing lists, so I am not sure how wide a net for this issue would be
>> appropriate.
>> There was a discussion on the #osm irc channel recently about the
>> possibility of approaching non-agreers to the new CT about any data they may
>> have contributed to areas where the removal of such data could have a
>> negative effect on our humanitarian efforts.
>> Looking for example at how much data we stand to lose in Haiti, this is
>> something that may limit the difficulty of those that are on the ground in
>> these places and struggling to remap.
>> The possibility of haing a bounding box around areas such as these was
>> mentioned - and there is aparantly a precedent for a users data within a BB
>> being retained.
>> Any thoughts, comments, or points?
>> Thanks,
>> Larry O'Neill
> Hi Larry,
> It looks as though there are no specific licensing issues as regards base
> data/photos used in Haiti [1]. The issue appears to be confined to mappers
> who have been active in the area but have either declined or not yet
> responded to requests to re-license? [2]
> We will need their individual permissions, the simplest way being just to
> ask them to respond to the new terms.  Friendly, courteous messages coming
> from individual mappers working in the same area have been highly effective
> in a number of countries. I would expect it to be doubly so here. We can
> then revisit the issue in say, two weeks time and see if anyone is left.
> I am immediately going to ask for a Haiti/Dominican Republic link to be
> added to http://odbl.de/ and http://odbl.poole.ch/ Then you can just read
> off the names and status.
> Meanwhile, you can use the OSMI License View tool to get started. Here is an
> incomplete list I just grabbed using it:
> Exponent, Brent Miller, cetest, osmapb1, Tinono, rendle, Tinono, EvaStern,
> robbert, Sidneyleenen, Elle_M, DDDarek, veugelke, Mirko Küster, Eddy
> Frometa, Alfredo Gil, Jochen Plumeyer, llibre
> It is good know their status.  You can do that by feeding them into
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/xxxx or seeing if they are on
> http://odbl.poole.ch/central-america-20111208-20120201-poly.html
> This wiki page can be used to coordinate efforts:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Asking_users_to_accept_the_ODbL
> Please do not hesitate to coordinate with us at legal at osmfoundation.org . We
> will do our best to assist.
> Mike
> License Working Group
> [1]. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue (Appears to be only
> Digital Orthophotos)
> [2]
> http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-71.35913&lat=18.22309&zoom=7&opacity=0.69&overlays=overview,wtfe_point_clean,wtfe_line_clean,wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_modified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_cp,wtfe_line_created
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