[HOT] Hello All

Daniel Öfele oefele at googlemail.com
Mon Jun 11 09:02:42 BST 2012

Hi Jon.

I´ll try to answer your questions - I did a lot of mapping in East 
Indonesia but I am not a OSM guru;)
A good start is probably the Good Practice page on the OSM wiki 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice (for more technical 
information see 

1. Tags should be in English. For multilingual name tags see 

2. Well, I would say "as much as you can".

3. Just map what you see, dont guess.

4. Mark it as a building

5. As far as I know not for Indonesia

Happy mapping.


Am 10.06.2012 22:49, schrieb Big Fat Frog:
> Hi,
> Firstly I'd like to thank Kate Chapman for her unwitting introduction 
> to HOT. I saw a post of hers to OSMF-TALK and got the intro to HOT 
> from her blog.
> I've been contributing to OSM since last year and have been 
> concentrating on my local area, however to find a way of improving the 
> maps in areas of the World that need it more is great.
> I have a few questions though:
> 1. I've looked at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indonesia for 
> guidance but am not sure wether all the Tags should be in English or 
> Indonesian, I'm guessing English.
> 2. Just how much detail do you want put in and don't say "as much as 
> possible".  Do you want each building traced or just the area marked 
> as to landuse?
> 3. How much guess work do you want?  I've never been to Indonesia so 
> have little knowledge of the type land cover there is. For example do 
> you want me to mark watercourses down hillsides that are covered in 
> forest, i.e. the stream is not visible to imagery but the valley is 
> clear and there's bound to be a watercourse at the bottom of it?
> 4. It's very hard to tell the difference between residential housing, 
> farm buildings and even some tourist accommodation. Do you want me to 
> make educated guess based on location, surrounding land etc or do want 
> it left simply marked as a buidling and leave it to ground surveys 
> and/or local knowledge.
> 5. Are there any other open sources that can be used to identify road 
> names/numbers, names of towns/villages or even the type of 
> landuse/landcover is typical around Indonesia?
> 6. The tasking tool http://tasks.hotosm.org is a fantastic way of 
> giving us mappers the confidence to wade into a particular area, 
> however a few improvements would be great:
>     a. If I'm Validating tasks I don't want to be presented with my 
> own tasks to validate, just other peoples.
>     b. A zoom in/out option on the little map with the tasks on.
>     c. A minor point but a Zoom level 15 would be a better initial 
> zoom when editing the task area.
> Hope you don't think I'm whinging but those were my first thoughts of 
> this excellent process.
> Lastly, I'm wondering if we could utilise the Geocaching community to 
> make maps by hiding virtual caches in an area you want mapped then 
> giving directions/clues to where it is by giving geo clues, they would 
> have to place those geo clues on OSM to somehow reveal the virtual 
> cache.  In the process the land is mapped?
> Anyway, enough for now.
> Jon
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