Pierre Béland pierzenh at yahoo.fr
Thu Dec 19 17:29:55 UTC 2013

HI all,

For the Kivu Activation in december 2012, we have traced Goma quite extensively. If you find areas where you need a more detailed map, we can discuss about tracing more in detail these areas if the imagery is available.

It would also be very interesting to collaborate with you to look at the various infrastructures and find ways to collect data for this.

I will also be pleased to participate to these discussions and find ways to collaborate with you.


 De : Andrew Buck <andrew.r.buck at gmail.com>
À : hot at openstreetmap.org 
Envoyé le : Jeudi 19 décembre 2013 12h07
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I just typed out a long reply to your message but when I hit send my
email client crashed so I will just give a short summary again here.

I would recommend we voice chat on either Skype (my username is
andrewbuck40) or on a program called Mumble which is like skype but
tends to work better on low bandwidth internet connections.  Mumble
also employs strong encryption which is better for protecting the
operational security of your ground teams, skype does have encryption
but Microsoft is known to have given the encryption keys to many world
governments and therefore we don't know who might be listening on that
medium.  It would be fine to use skype for the initial discussion but
Mumble is a lot safer if we start discussing operational details.
Instructions for setting up mumble are at the link below.


I am recommending we have a voice discussion as my experience is that
when starting work with a group such as yours it often works much
better to get set up that way.  Often people offer to help collect map
data and they have some procedure in mind but after the discussion we
find that there are much better ways for them to contribute which
yield more data but are less work for the field teams doing the

Please contact me whenever you find time to do so (I would expect the
discussion to take about an hour at the most).  I am available on
either skype or mumble anytime during US daylight hours.

- -AndrewBuck

 De : Leonard Ouma <leoouma at gmail.com>
À : sdufour <stephanie.s.dufour at wanadoo.fr> 
Cc : hot at openstreetmap.org 
Envoyé le : Jeudi 19 décembre 2013 11h43

How about asking your team to pick the gps coords of the features to be mapped. It will make the process much simpler.

On Dec 19, 2013 7:38 PM, "sdufour" <stephanie.s.dufour at wanadoo.fr> wrote:

Hi Andrew,
>Thanks a lot for your answer !!
>First of all, sorry because I haven't mentioned the name of my organization : MSF (Doctors Without Borders). Second of all, it is not an urgent request, it is more a less a first try with OSM. On a long term process, the objective will be to map the District of Rutshuru but for now we are focused on Goma and its area in order to see how it could help us to improve our interventions.
>We can legally and ethically share the datas we have (list of health centers or hospitals). As I said one of the teams (the coordination) is based in Goma and go time to time on the field to collect new info. 
>I think we are going to start working on it,  your help when you'll have more time is more than welcomed.
>> Message du 19/12/13 17:01
>>> De : "Andrew Buck" 
>>> A : hot at openstreetmap.org
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>>> Objet : Re: [HOT] MAPPING GOMA/DRC
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>>> Stéphanie,
>>> It is possible we may be able to help out with your work in Goma, but
>>> you have to keep in mind that our resources are already spread a bit
>>> thin with the response to typhoon Haiyan in the Philippines and the
>>> ongoing civil war in the Central African Republic as well. The crisis
>>> in DRC has been something we have been targeting though so we can
>>> certainly help out, but don't expect a full scale response right away.
>>> Regarding your request, if you have a list of health facilities that
>>> may be possible to integrate into OSM but there are two issues that
>>> occur: one legal, the other technical.
>>> - From the legal side, we need to know what license your list is under.
>>> If it is data your organization created yourself then you can easily
>>> give us permission to bring it into OSM. If it is not your data
>>> though we would need to find out what the source of the data is, and
>>> whether they would allow its import into our database.
>>> On the tecnical side, depending on the structure and format of you
>>> list it could range from very easy to bring in the data, to impossible
>>> if we do not have good addressing information to locate the
>>> facilities. You have to keep in mind that our remote mappers work
>>> mostly from imagery so we can help out some but may not be able to
>>> definitively locate things. Having your ground teams who can verify
>>> things should help with this a lot though. The technical aspects,
>>> however, are secondary to the licensing issue, if we can't use the
>>> data due to copyright issues than the point is moot and our
>>> collaboration with you will just have to basically ignore the list; we
>>> can still offer assistance but the help must necessarily take a
>>> different form in this case.
>>> - -AndrewBuck
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