[HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo
Pierre Béland
pierzenh at yahoo.fr
Sun Mar 24 20:17:03 UTC 2013
Rafael,
We can see from this pdf that there is good information about road classification in DR Congo. But this map is not detailed enough and there is no shape file provided for road classification in the rgc.cd site. I will check with Claire Halleux if such file is available.
Pierre
>________________________________
> De : Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com>
>À : Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>
>Cc : "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
>Envoyé le : Dimanche 24 mars 2013 14h34
>Objet : Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo
>
>Hi, Pierre:
>
>Looking for documentation, I found some official documents that classify
>the major roads of the RDC [1].
>
>The document 4.1 [2] classifies the roads in 3 different types: routes
>nationales, routes provinciales prioritaires and routes provinciales
>secondaires.
>
>Wouldn't it be better for the RDC to take those documents as a reference?
>
>Another concern is I'm finding some roads that have a ref. that doesn't
>match with those documents. For example, road RP1030 appears as
>reference for different roads/branches, and moreover they change their
>type along the road. More puzzling is the fact that some of them have
>the tags attribution=«Ces données géographiques proviennent du
>Référentiel Géographique Commun (www.rgc.cd).» and source_ref=www.rgc.cd
>when they are clearly wrong according to that source. Source date is
>30th November 2007, though.
>
>I'm just tagging as tertiary and unclassified the roads that don't
>appear to have a ref. number (according to those docs) and would suggest
>to tag the rest following this schema:
>
>routes nationales=trunk
>routes provinciales prioritaires=primary
>routes provinciales secondaires=secondary
>
>What do you think? It quite follows the schema you proposed for Mali anyhow.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Rafael.
>
>[1]
>http://www.rgc.cd/site/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=category&id=12:autres-documents&Itemid=66
>
>[2]
>http://www.rgc.cd/site/phocadownload/4_1_nomenclature_routes_dinteret%20general_a4.pdf
>
>On 24/03/13 14:15, Pierre Béland wrote:
>> Rafael
>>
>> When mapping in african countries, we do not have access to
>> documentation that classify roads. I proposed a classification for Mali
>> roads which I think is pertinent for african countries in general. This
>> road classification is based on the observation of town sizes. The
>> primary and secondary classes are for major towns and the tertiary for
>> intermediate size towns. The unclassifed category is for smaller towns.
>> see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mali_Highway_tag
>>
>> Looking at roads classification around Kitchanga, I observe in general a
>> good hierarchy of roads. But the network of tertiary roads is incomplete
>> and needs to be revised. If you are not sure, use the unclassified
>> attribute. Once the network is completed, it should be easier to revise
>> the classification.
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *De :* Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com>
>> *À :* hot at openstreetmap.org
>> *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 24 mars 2013 8h34
>> *Objet :* [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo
>>
>> Oups! I forgot the wiki URL:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Congo-Kinshasa/Routes
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] New Job for Tracing in the Congo
>> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:29:44 +0100
>> From: Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com
>> <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>>
>> To: hot at openstreetmap.org <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org>
>>
>> Has anyone get any consensus on how to tag the national and provincial
>> roads in RDC?
>>
>> There is a wiki [1] with very nice info about the roads, with their
>> references and routes, but it doesn't say how to tag each of them:
>> trunk, primary, secondary, tertiary and unclassified.
>>
>> Any clue?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rafael Ávila Coya (edvac).
>>
>> On 23/03/13 18:17, Pierre Béland wrote:
>> > The area around Sake and Kitchanga is a strategic point at the
>> carrefour
>> > of various roads and humanitarians have expressed concerns. There have
>> > been violences repeatedly, massive displacements of people and
>> sanitary
>> > risks. Thanks to the US State Department, we now have good imagery to
>> > cover this area. Thanks also to Jean-Guilhem and Andrew for the
>> imagery
>> > corrections and server setups.
>> >
>> > We should be able to cover this area rapidly. While we have access to
>> > the Nextview imagery, we should map as much as we can. For this Task
>> > Manager job, We will give Workflow instructions to map this area in
>> > detail including the buildings.
>> >
>> >
>> > Pierre
>> >
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > *De :* Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com
>> <mailto:jgc at arkemie.com>>
>> > *À :* hot at openstreetmap.org <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org>
>> > *Envoyé le :* Samedi 23 mars 2013 10h45
>> > *Objet :* Re: [HOT] New Job for Tracing in the Congo
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > When I pointed out that clear high resolution images of the town of
>> > Kitchanga (and of the area between Saké and Kitchanga,
>> including the
>> > village of Burungu) were available, thanks to the State Department,
>> > Claire, who is our main contact in DRC, replied that :
>> > "We could set tasks for the national road surroundings, Burungu and
>> > Kitchanga.
>> > But it would also be valuable to use them for mapping all visible
>> > infrastructures out of those first three."
>> >
>> > And, half an hour later, she added :
>> > "ICRC confirmed their interest for Kitchanga data already.
>> > Considering the level of recent damages in town, it would be
>> good to
>> > get all the buildings drawn as well.
>> > Some other organisations might also be interested soon."
>> >
>> >
>> > For more information in your language about what happened recently
>> > in Kitchanga, you can look it up in your favorite search engine.
>> >
>> > Here are for example a few links, in English :
>> >
>> https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/news/article.cfm?id=6673&cat=field-news
>> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21623068
>> >
>> > and in French :
>> >
>> http://blog.lesoir.be/colette-braeckman/2013/03/07/kitchanga-nord-kivu-ville-martyre/
>> >
>> http://radiookapi.net/actualite/2013/03/06/felix-prosper-basse-la-monusco-appuye-les-fardc-pour-empecher-lavancee-de-lapcls/#more-144986
>> >
>> http://www.rtbf.be/info/monde/detail_nord-kivu-kitchanga-se-noie-dans-son-sang?id=7943339
>> >
>> http://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2013/03/07/la-croix-rouge-denonce-une-situation-dramatique-a-kitchanga-en-rdc_1844415_3212.html
>> >
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> >
>> > Jean-Guilhem
>> >
>> >
>> > Le 23/03/2013 14:48, Andrew Buck a écrit :
>> >> I am not sure what the goal is specifically, only that we have
>> a gap
>> >> in our coverage in the strip heading north from Sake and we were
>> >> granted access to some imagery to cover the area. We got the
>> imagery
>> >> due to interest in the region from humanitarian organizations,
>> but I
>> >> do not know who asked for the coverage or what specifically
>> they are
>> >> looking for. All I know is that we were missing imagery for
>> this area
>> >> and now we have it.
>> >>
>> >> Wish I had a more specific answer for you but that is all I
>> have at
>> >> this point. Hopefully someone can elaborate further so we can set
>> >> priorities appropriately, but even if not, this is just a good
>> gap in
>> >> our coverage to fill in anyway.
>> >>
>> >> -AndrewBuck
>> >>
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