[HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo
Rafael Avila Coya
ravilacoya at gmail.com
Sun Mar 24 20:56:23 UTC 2013
Pierre,
This one is a bit more detailed for the area of Kitchanga:
http://www.rgc.cd/site/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=category&download=79:etarrignki&id=12:autres-documents&Itemid=66
As an example, you can see the RS1031 secondary road. In the general map
for the whole RDC you can't see the ref. of that road.
Cheers,
Rafael.
On 24/03/13 21:17, Pierre Béland wrote:
> Rafael,
>
> We can see from this pdf that there is good information about road
> classification in DR Congo. But this map is not detailed enough and
> there is no shape file provided for road classification in the rgc.cd
> site. I will check with Claire Halleux if such file is available.
>
>
> Pierre
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *De :* Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com>
> *À :* Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>
> *Cc :* "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 24 mars 2013 14h34
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo
>
> Hi, Pierre:
>
> Looking for documentation, I found some official documents that classify
> the major roads of the RDC [1].
>
> The document 4.1 [2] classifies the roads in 3 different types: routes
> nationales, routes provinciales prioritaires and routes provinciales
> secondaires.
>
> Wouldn't it be better for the RDC to take those documents as a
> reference?
>
> Another concern is I'm finding some roads that have a ref. that doesn't
> match with those documents. For example, road RP1030 appears as
> reference for different roads/branches, and moreover they change their
> type along the road. More puzzling is the fact that some of them have
> the tags attribution=«Ces données géographiques proviennent du
> Référentiel Géographique Commun (www.rgc.cd).» and source_ref=www.rgc.cd
> when they are clearly wrong according to that source. Source date is
> 30th November 2007, though.
>
> I'm just tagging as tertiary and unclassified the roads that don't
> appear to have a ref. number (according to those docs) and would suggest
> to tag the rest following this schema:
>
> routes nationales=trunk
> routes provinciales prioritaires=primary
> routes provinciales secondaires=secondary
>
> What do you think? It quite follows the schema you proposed for Mali
> anyhow.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rafael.
>
> [1]
> http://www.rgc.cd/site/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=category&id=12:autres-documents&Itemid=66
>
> [2]
> http://www.rgc.cd/site/phocadownload/4_1_nomenclature_routes_dinteret%20general_a4.pdf
>
> On 24/03/13 14:15, Pierre Béland wrote:
> > Rafael
> >
> > When mapping in african countries, we do not have access to
> > documentation that classify roads. I proposed a classification for
> Mali
> > roads which I think is pertinent for african countries in
> general. This
> > road classification is based on the observation of town sizes. The
> > primary and secondary classes are for major towns and the tertiary for
> > intermediate size towns. The unclassifed category is for smaller
> towns.
> > see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mali_Highway_tag
> >
> > Looking at roads classification around Kitchanga, I observe in
> general a
> > good hierarchy of roads. But the network of tertiary roads is
> incomplete
> > and needs to be revised. If you are not sure, use the unclassified
> > attribute. Once the network is completed, it should be easier to
> revise
> > the classification.
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *De :* Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com
> <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>>
> > *À :* hot at openstreetmap.org <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org>
> > *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 24 mars 2013 8h34
> > *Objet :* [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo
> >
> > Oups! I forgot the wiki URL:
> >
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Congo-Kinshasa/Routes
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [HOT] New Job for Tracing in the Congo
> > Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:29:44 +0100
> > From: Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com
> <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>>>
> > To: hot at openstreetmap.org <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org>
> <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org>>
> >
> > Has anyone get any consensus on how to tag the national and
> provincial
> > roads in RDC?
> >
> > There is a wiki [1] with very nice info about the roads, with their
> > references and routes, but it doesn't say how to tag each of them:
> > trunk, primary, secondary, tertiary and unclassified.
> >
> > Any clue?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rafael Ávila Coya (edvac).
> >
> > On 23/03/13 18:17, Pierre Béland wrote:
> > > The area around Sake and Kitchanga is a strategic point at the
> > carrefour
> > > of various roads and humanitarians have expressed concerns.
> There have
> > > been violences repeatedly, massive displacements of people and
> > sanitary
> > > risks. Thanks to the US State Department, we now have good
> imagery to
> > > cover this area. Thanks also to Jean-Guilhem and Andrew for the
> > imagery
> > > corrections and server setups.
> > >
> > > We should be able to cover this area rapidly. While we have
> access to
> > > the Nextview imagery, we should map as much as we can. For
> this Task
> > > Manager job, We will give Workflow instructions to map this
> area in
> > > detail including the buildings.
> > >
> > >
> > > Pierre
> > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > *De :* Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com
> <mailto:jgc at arkemie.com>
> > <mailto:jgc at arkemie.com <mailto:jgc at arkemie.com>>>
> > > *À :* hot at openstreetmap.org <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org>
> <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org>>
> > > *Envoyé le :* Samedi 23 mars 2013 10h45
> > > *Objet :* Re: [HOT] New Job for Tracing in the Congo
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > When I pointed out that clear high resolution images of
> the town of
> > > Kitchanga (and of the area between Saké and Kitchanga,
> > including the
> > > village of Burungu) were available, thanks to the State
> Department,
> > > Claire, who is our main contact in DRC, replied that :
> > > "We could set tasks for the national road surroundings,
> Burungu and
> > > Kitchanga.
> > > But it would also be valuable to use them for mapping all
> visible
> > > infrastructures out of those first three."
> > >
> > > And, half an hour later, she added :
> > > "ICRC confirmed their interest for Kitchanga data already.
> > > Considering the level of recent damages in town, it would be
> > good to
> > > get all the buildings drawn as well.
> > > Some other organisations might also be interested soon."
> > >
> > >
> > > For more information in your language about what happened
> recently
> > > in Kitchanga, you can look it up in your favorite search
> engine.
> > >
> > > Here are for example a few links, in English :
> > >
> >
> https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/news/article.cfm?id=6673&cat=field-news
> > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21623068
> > >
> > > and in French :
> > >
> >
> http://blog.lesoir.be/colette-braeckman/2013/03/07/kitchanga-nord-kivu-ville-martyre/
> > >
> >
> http://radiookapi.net/actualite/2013/03/06/felix-prosper-basse-la-monusco-appuye-les-fardc-pour-empecher-lavancee-de-lapcls/#more-144986
> > >
> >
> http://www.rtbf.be/info/monde/detail_nord-kivu-kitchanga-se-noie-dans-son-sang?id=7943339
> > >
> >
> http://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2013/03/07/la-croix-rouge-denonce-une-situation-dramatique-a-kitchanga-en-rdc_1844415_3212.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Jean-Guilhem
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 23/03/2013 14:48, Andrew Buck a écrit :
> > >> I am not sure what the goal is specifically, only that we
> have
> > a gap
> > >> in our coverage in the strip heading north from Sake and
> we were
> > >> granted access to some imagery to cover the area. We got the
> > imagery
> > >> due to interest in the region from humanitarian
> organizations,
> > but I
> > >> do not know who asked for the coverage or what specifically
> > they are
> > >> looking for. All I know is that we were missing imagery for
> > this area
> > >> and now we have it.
> > >>
> > >> Wish I had a more specific answer for you but that is all I
> > have at
> > >> this point. Hopefully someone can elaborate further so
> we can set
> > >> priorities appropriately, but even if not, this is just a
> good
> > gap in
> > >> our coverage to fill in anyway.
> > >>
> > >> -AndrewBuck
> > >>
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