[HOT] Syria Activation

FOFANA BAZO BAGNOUMANA fofana.13bazo at gmail.com
Fri Apr 18 20:50:52 UTC 2014


salut
entièrement d'accord avec ce que Severin vient de dire il faut être très
prudent sur les types de données que nous produisons car ces données sont
visualisables par tout le monde et donc peuvent être utiliser par n'importe
qui pour faire n'importe quoi.
les routes peuvent être cartographier à mon sens. Mais vu en fait la
situation en Syrie, moi je dirais en toutes franchise, qu'il faut
que cette situation soit analysé avec beaucoup de prudence afin de ne pas
fournir des informations à des personnes qui l'utiliserons pour de
mauvaises actions


2014-04-18 16:41 GMT+00:00 Hanan Yazigi <hananyazigi at gmail.com>:

> I completely agree with Severin with the risks of mapping sensitive
> information.
> About the information HOT have been asked for, is it the information
> before crisis or now?
> I wonder if some roads info (closed/open) might be also sensitive. We have
> to check.
>
> But I think that the populated places can be mapped without risk and could
> be a very useful starting point.
>
> I'm also out of the country for a few days. So I can't work on it
> seriously before next week.
>
> Best
> On 18 Apr 2014 02:39, "Joseph Reeves" <iknowjoseph at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I've not looked at Syria mapping in any coordinated manner for a while
>> now, but there is some areas that we could start on; I've been thinking
>> about starting some Task Manager jobs for a while now as Bing imagery has
>> improved (I've not looked at the result of the recent MapBox / DigitalGlobe
>> / iD announcement).
>>
>> HOT have been asked to trace population centres, roads and POIs such as
>> places of worship. I think we can still do this without creating the risks
>> that Sev has previously mentioned. I understand that this might not be
>> getting the most from Syrian mappers interested, but I think it's a good
>> starting place for now.There are some other jobs that would be really
>> useful, such as matching existing OSM place names to visible towns /
>> villages on the imagery - a lot of this simply doesn't match up.
>>
>> I'm on vacation at the moment, but can hopefully start a job later this
>> evening if it would be wanted. Anyone interested in the meantime could look
>> at my OSM edit history [0] to see areas that have recently become visible
>> on Bing.
>>
>> Best, Joseph
>>
>>
>> [0]
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/IknowJoseph/history#map=8/36.235/39.397
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17 April 2014 16:14, Severin Menard <severin.menard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We need to be careful with the data we produce, cause it is well known
>>> the social medias in general are tracked by the Syrian government and that
>>> Point of Interests that should not be targeted unfortunately are. It would
>>> be really harmful eg to put the locations of mobile clinics or any health
>>> facility in OSM, as confirmed by a representative of a NGO of local medics
>>> I recently discussed with. I think for this crisis we should first
>>> discussed with humanitarian stakeholders to balance the benefits (I expect
>>> the Syrian government has more data and maps than the humanitarian relief
>>> organizations) and the harms of a imagery based mapping that could also be
>>> done more discretely than usual.
>>> What do think the readers of this list working for such relief
>>> organizations?
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Severin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Russell Deffner <
>>> russell.deffner at hotosm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, anyone can use the damage tagging – please do!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Hanan Yazigi [mailto:hananyazigi at gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:14 AM
>>>> *To:* Mikel Maron
>>>> *Cc:* hot at openstreetmap.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Syria Activation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know some locations in Damascus. And in Homs governorate. But not in
>>>> a priority zone.
>>>>
>>>> But I can try to figure out how I can involve more syrians from
>>>> different areas and cities, or work with them on specific features.
>>>>
>>>> And also: I didn't find any layers about the destructions. I think it
>>>> would be a very interesting information. I remember that you use to map it.
>>>> Am I wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> On 17 Apr 2014 20:03, "Mikel Maron" <mikel_maron at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Hanan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Syrian Activation has been going for some time, but not recently
>>>> under an active projects. The exceptions have been import of data for
>>>> refugee camps in northern Jordan by UNHCR.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is still definitely a need to improve coverage in Syria. Are
>>>> there any particular regions that you have knowledge of, and that could use
>>>> greater detail, like the location and names of specific services? Perhaps
>>>> we can examine the state of things and think through some new tasks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your interest.
>>>>
>>>> Mikel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:52 AM, Hanan Yazigi <
>>>> hananyazigi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm very interested by the "Syria Activation" project. It will be very
>>>> helpful for so many projects (UN or small local initiatives!).
>>>> I would be glad to participate.
>>>> I know well the country and the language (I'm syrian although I grew up
>>>> abroad). And I have a long experience with GIS and geographic data, data
>>>> quality, data analysis, web-mapping, etc...
>>>> How can we know more about the timeline of the project? And the tasks?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Fofana Bagnoumana Bazo
Etudiant en Master II (Géographie, Gestion des Ressources Naturelles)
A l'université de Ouagadougou
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