[HOT] Mapping IDP camps in Maguindanao, Philippines

maning sambale emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com
Fri Apr 10 11:05:28 UTC 2015


Hi,

I updated the instructions tab for those interested to validate the
current work in this task.
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969

Let me know if the instructions are still vague.

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 5:15 PM, maning sambale
<emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear john,
>
> Thank you very much for working on this job.  For an example of what I
> think is complete, see my work on this task:
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969#task/80
>
> I agree that this is a very difficult task and, as you suggested, this
> task might be best suited to focus just on roads and residential
> areas. I will talk to ARMM-Heart this week to refine what data they
> need and will revise the
> instructions accordingly.  You are definitely correct that this task
> is best suited for local PH-based mappers and, upon looking at the
> changeset comment [0], majority of the mappers were PH based or at
> least mapping the PH (this includes a few of the people we trained
> when I went there to assist the IDP mapping request last week).
>
> I foresee this as longer term response (not very urgent, but equally
> important). I will probably be back (as a volunteer) on the field to
> help the local responders but as I've said previously, security is a
> concern so we map as much as we can remotely and integrate ground
> validation to other humanitarian work.  Thanks again and your
> contribution is very much appreciated.
>
>
> [0] http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=ARMM#11/6.9949/124.3810
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:35 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Given the resources available I think it would be better to reduce the scope
>> and first map major roads and say settlements of more than five houses.  If
>> I look at what has been mapped a lot of individual buildings have been
>> mapped which is good but in the same time far more buildings could have been
>> mapped in settlements.
>>
>> Currently I'm mapping another two projects both at 90+%, one one I'm
>> practically the only mapper left and and the other a high priority one the
>> number of active mappers completing tiles has dropped off considerably
>> recently.
>>
>> So basically the concern if you like is this project is quite difficult to
>> map all the attributes asked for, a sample tile would be useful.  To be
>> honest unless it says on the roof in large friendly letters what it is it
>> could be a barn, warehouse, school, public building or place of worship.  So
>> you can map a tile for roads, settlements and large buildings that look
>> interesting but you can't really tick the box to say its done and sometimes
>> box ticking helps the motivation.  The Philippines might be the place to
>> look for mappers who are motivated and know something about the area.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 4 April 2015 at 10:31, Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi John
>>>
>>> Yes, this is important to zoom in enough. This is a tropical country and
>>> there is dense vegetation that sometimes partly obscure the buildings. In
>>> comparizon, it is easier then to map for the Vanuatu islands where the
>>> vegetation is ever more dense.
>>>
>>> For these emergencies, the humanitarian organizations need a minimum of
>>> information for their logistic of operation.  For this task, instructions
>>> are to trace outbound of the residential areas and the major buildings plus
>>> the highways.
>>>
>>> Looking at a task that you validated previously, I see that the Bing
>>> imagery is clear enough to trace the highways and the outline around the
>>> residential areas. http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969#task/55
>>>
>>> Humanitarians plan to use an offline OSMand map to navigate. Maning is in
>>> the field interfacing with these organizations. He also added to the
>>> instruction panel links to Mapillary video. This help us to understand the
>>> context.
>>>
>>>
>>> Pierre
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> De : john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>>> À : maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>>> Cc : HOT <hot at openstreetmap.org>
>>> Envoyé le : Samedi 4 avril 2015 9h24
>>> Objet : Re: [HOT] Mapping IDP camps in Maguindanao, Philippines
>>>
>>> I've had a quick look, the houses are often low density and there are lots
>>> of them which makes mapping a cluster awkward, it also means that marking a
>>> tile done is difficult if any buildings are not mapped.  The tracks / roads
>>> can be difficult to pick out which again makes marking the tile done not
>>> easy.  Some clusters of housing don't appear to have any roads leading up to
>>> them but there is a lot of water around so I assume that is the method of
>>> transport.  Anyway I've quickly marked a few large landuse=residential on a
>>> few tiles so I hope that is of some use.  Realistically you need a lot more
>>> mappers from somewhere, much of the imagery is good but you need to zoom in.
>>> Can you tap the locals in some way?  Especially for the requirement about
>>> picking out places of worships, schools and public buildings and these need
>>> to be done before the tile can be marked done if it is a requirement.;
>>>
>>> What might help is getting one tile mapped as an example of how you'd like
>>> the others mapped.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 31 March 2015 at 06:59, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear everyone,
>>>
>>> As always, thank you to the 10 contributors [0] who are helping with this
>>> task.
>>> I just uploaded some mapillary photos to help guide mappers what some
>>> of the features look like on the ground.
>>> Links are in the Instruction tab of the task [1].
>>>
>>> We are hoping the holy week ceasefire will decrease the military
>>> offensive [2] but IDP situation on the ground is not any way better.
>>> Once again this is not an urgent task nor a formal activation, but we
>>> appreciate any help you can extend.
>>>
>>> [0]
>>> http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=ARMM#11/6.9949/124.3810
>>> [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969
>>> [2] http://www.manilatimes.net/holy-week-ceasefire/173028/
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:21 AM, maning sambale
>>> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Dear HOTties,
>>> >
>>> > (cc OSM-PH)
>>> >
>>> > This is not an urgent task, but we are requesting any assistance you can
>>> > extend.
>>> > There is an ongoing military operation in Maguindanao which affected
>>> > 125K IDPs
>>> > [0 and 1].  I am in Cotabato right now assisting the ARMM-HEART (the
>>> > regional humanitarian agency) in using OSM in coordinating the
>>> > on-going response.
>>> >
>>> > Fieldwork is very challenging due to physical and security conditions.
>>> > We created a task to improve the baseamap.  The task is here:
>>> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969
>>> >
>>> > Advance thanks!
>>> >
>>> > [0]
>>> > http://reliefweb.int/map/philippines/philippines-displacement-overview-central-mindanao-3-mar-2015
>>> > [1]
>>> > http://data.ex2.georepublic.net:8080/geofuse/showtheme?layer=csvdata.mb_FA7FECF8C37F1AAD7A504FAA0876B6D0_2348
>>> > --
>>> > cheers,
>>> > maning
>>> > ------------------------------------------------------
>>> > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
>>> > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> cheers,
>>> maning
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>
>
>
> --
> cheers,
> maning
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