[HOT] Mapping IDP camps in Maguindanao, Philippines

Severin Menard severin.menard at gmail.com
Sun Apr 5 11:49:38 UTC 2015


HI Maning,

I did http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969#task/15 but did not figure out
the paths in the NW to reach the dwellings there, I guess it must be under
the vegetation cover?

Severin

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 9:15 AM, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear john,
>
> Thank you very much for working on this job.  For an example of what I
> think is complete, see my work on this task:
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969#task/80
>
> I agree that this is a very difficult task and, as you suggested, this
> task might be best suited to focus just on roads and residential
> areas. I will talk to ARMM-Heart this week to refine what data they
> need and will revise the
> instructions accordingly.  You are definitely correct that this task
> is best suited for local PH-based mappers and, upon looking at the
> changeset comment [0], majority of the mappers were PH based or at
> least mapping the PH (this includes a few of the people we trained
> when I went there to assist the IDP mapping request last week).
>
> I foresee this as longer term response (not very urgent, but equally
> important). I will probably be back (as a volunteer) on the field to
> help the local responders but as I've said previously, security is a
> concern so we map as much as we can remotely and integrate ground
> validation to other humanitarian work.  Thanks again and your
> contribution is very much appreciated.
>
>
> [0]
> http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=ARMM#11/6.9949/124.3810
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:35 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Given the resources available I think it would be better to reduce the
> scope
> > and first map major roads and say settlements of more than five houses.
> If
> > I look at what has been mapped a lot of individual buildings have been
> > mapped which is good but in the same time far more buildings could have
> been
> > mapped in settlements.
> >
> > Currently I'm mapping another two projects both at 90+%, one one I'm
> > practically the only mapper left and and the other a high priority one
> the
> > number of active mappers completing tiles has dropped off considerably
> > recently.
> >
> > So basically the concern if you like is this project is quite difficult
> to
> > map all the attributes asked for, a sample tile would be useful.  To be
> > honest unless it says on the roof in large friendly letters what it is it
> > could be a barn, warehouse, school, public building or place of
> worship.  So
> > you can map a tile for roads, settlements and large buildings that look
> > interesting but you can't really tick the box to say its done and
> sometimes
> > box ticking helps the motivation.  The Philippines might be the place to
> > look for mappers who are motivated and know something about the area.
> >
> > Cheerio John
> >
> > On 4 April 2015 at 10:31, Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi John
> >>
> >> Yes, this is important to zoom in enough. This is a tropical country and
> >> there is dense vegetation that sometimes partly obscure the buildings.
> In
> >> comparizon, it is easier then to map for the Vanuatu islands where the
> >> vegetation is ever more dense.
> >>
> >> For these emergencies, the humanitarian organizations need a minimum of
> >> information for their logistic of operation.  For this task,
> instructions
> >> are to trace outbound of the residential areas and the major buildings
> plus
> >> the highways.
> >>
> >> Looking at a task that you validated previously, I see that the Bing
> >> imagery is clear enough to trace the highways and the outline around the
> >> residential areas. http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969#task/55
> >>
> >> Humanitarians plan to use an offline OSMand map to navigate. Maning is
> in
> >> the field interfacing with these organizations. He also added to the
> >> instruction panel links to Mapillary video. This help us to understand
> the
> >> context.
> >>
> >>
> >> Pierre
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> De : john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> >> À : maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> >> Cc : HOT <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> >> Envoyé le : Samedi 4 avril 2015 9h24
> >> Objet : Re: [HOT] Mapping IDP camps in Maguindanao, Philippines
> >>
> >> I've had a quick look, the houses are often low density and there are
> lots
> >> of them which makes mapping a cluster awkward, it also means that
> marking a
> >> tile done is difficult if any buildings are not mapped.  The tracks /
> roads
> >> can be difficult to pick out which again makes marking the tile done not
> >> easy.  Some clusters of housing don't appear to have any roads leading
> up to
> >> them but there is a lot of water around so I assume that is the method
> of
> >> transport.  Anyway I've quickly marked a few large landuse=residential
> on a
> >> few tiles so I hope that is of some use.  Realistically you need a lot
> more
> >> mappers from somewhere, much of the imagery is good but you need to
> zoom in.
> >> Can you tap the locals in some way?  Especially for the requirement
> about
> >> picking out places of worships, schools and public buildings and these
> need
> >> to be done before the tile can be marked done if it is a requirement.;
> >>
> >> What might help is getting one tile mapped as an example of how you'd
> like
> >> the others mapped.
> >>
> >> Cheerio John
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 31 March 2015 at 06:59, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear everyone,
> >>
> >> As always, thank you to the 10 contributors [0] who are helping with
> this
> >> task.
> >> I just uploaded some mapillary photos to help guide mappers what some
> >> of the features look like on the ground.
> >> Links are in the Instruction tab of the task [1].
> >>
> >> We are hoping the holy week ceasefire will decrease the military
> >> offensive [2] but IDP situation on the ground is not any way better.
> >> Once again this is not an urgent task nor a formal activation, but we
> >> appreciate any help you can extend.
> >>
> >> [0]
> >>
> http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=ARMM#11/6.9949/124.3810
> >> [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969
> >> [2] http://www.manilatimes.net/holy-week-ceasefire/173028/
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:21 AM, maning sambale
> >> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Dear HOTties,
> >> >
> >> > (cc OSM-PH)
> >> >
> >> > This is not an urgent task, but we are requesting any assistance you
> can
> >> > extend.
> >> > There is an ongoing military operation in Maguindanao which affected
> >> > 125K IDPs
> >> > [0 and 1].  I am in Cotabato right now assisting the ARMM-HEART (the
> >> > regional humanitarian agency) in using OSM in coordinating the
> >> > on-going response.
> >> >
> >> > Fieldwork is very challenging due to physical and security conditions.
> >> > We created a task to improve the baseamap.  The task is here:
> >> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/969
> >> >
> >> > Advance thanks!
> >> >
> >> > [0]
> >> >
> http://reliefweb.int/map/philippines/philippines-displacement-overview-central-mindanao-3-mar-2015
> >> > [1]
> >> >
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> >> > --
> >> > cheers,
> >> > maning
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------
> >> > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
> >> > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> cheers,
> >> maning
> >> ------------------------------------------------------
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> maning
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