[HOT] SPAM? MALWARE? Fwd: Survey Goethe-University Frankfurt a. M. Department of Human Geography

Pat Tressel ptressel at myuw.net
Mon Apr 13 18:01:36 UTC 2015

John --

This could be excellent feedback for their survey design.  Especially
important are the questions that do not have a way to enter the "real"
answer or that suggest a category of answer, e.g. "where do you map?",
where my answer is similar to yours -- wherever the requests come in from
-or- what event is in the news (and I go looking for a corresponding HOT
task).  I was also thinking, as you did, that it would be an advantage to
them to try out mapping first -- get on the mailing list, see how tasks are
announced and pitched, talk to people...and *then* compose the survey
questions.  It is probably not too late now to improve the questions, since
they are just starting.

-- Pat

One of the problems with surveys is selection criteria of the sample and
> having picked your sample the response rate.  Working for a few years at
> Statistics Canada you get indoctrinated with this stuff.  I think it was
> something they slipped into the coffee.
> Looking at the questions they are coming from a particular angle and it
> shows.  One question is what do you map.  The answer is basically whatever
> is requested in the HOT project.  One question they didn't ask is why do
> you choose to map a particular project?  They seem to be hung up on which
> part of the world you are mapping which to be honest I've not much idea.  I
> even looked at the list of HOT projects I'd mapped and tried to correlate
> them to the names in the survey.  I don't think I got a good match.  Some
> projects where probably in areas that they were after but I didn't
> recognise them as such.  There is such a thing as respondent burden and
> asking people to say if they have mapped in an area without giving the
> project numbers is asking for trouble.  If I look at my HOT mapping there
> are basically two types, one I dig into a project and do 50-250 tiles and
> others where I might do one or two tiles.  Do they give equal weight to an
> area that I've mapped 250 tiles in to one I've mapped one tile in?  I just
> either respond to an urgent priority request, or curiosity, or I have a
> small collection of projects that I'm slowly mapping in slow time that have
> good imagery to map from and project instructions that I think I can
> manage.  I'm still hopeless at deciding what purpose a building is from a
> satellite image unless the natives have been out with a paint brush on the
> roof and painted what it is before the satellite flies by.
> The other thing that might be interesting to know is which projects have
> people on the ground to do a better job of tagging.  Street names aren't
> visible from on high but that's another survey.
> I wonder how much information they could have got straight from HOT
> without asking the questions?  HOT gives you the list of projects and the
> number of tiles which roughly corresponds to how much mapping you do. The
> OSM profile gives more information.  You might not get all the information
> requested but the response rate would be much better which means the
> quality of the data would be higher.
> It's not a bad survey but I get the impression that if they had done some
> HOT mapping first they might have a better understanding of how the system
> works and they would have got more meaningful data.  For example we know
> that in some areas there is an educated population that we can tap into.
> Bangladesh, the Philippines  etc. and often the local mappers are heavily
> involved in the HOT mapping in some case providing as much as 75% of the
> mapping.  In other areas such as Africa there is less Internet
> availability, computer knowledge and fewer people who are familiar with
> computers and JOSM so in those cases we can expect that most mapping will
> be done remotely with local tagging hopefully later on.
> Cheerio John
> On 12 April 2015 at 17:19, Charlotte Wolter <techlady at techlady.com> wrote:
>>  John,
>>         I'm sure the universsity of legit. I'm just not sure about these
>> guys.
>>         I'd feel better if they had a university URL. In fact, I think
>> that's
>> basic, if the survey is what they claim.
>> Charlotte
>> At 11:58 AM 4/12/2015, you wrote:
>> I opened the link and did the survey. Looks legitimate.
>> I have various bits of software that check for things.
>> It would probably be more secure if it didn't ask for
>> javascript to be enabled, and I'd be happier with a
>> https connection.
>> Cheerio
>> John
>> On 12 April 2015 at 14:27, Charlotte Wolter <techlady at techlady.com>
>> wrote:
>>  Dear folks,
>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I just received this. Because there was no advance notice
>> of any kind,
>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I'm inclined to think that it is malware. I certainly do
>> not intend to open
>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â the link to their "survey."
>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Does anyone know if this is legit?
>> Charlotte
>>  Delivered-To: techlady at techlady.com
>> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:49:49 +0200
>> From: Simon Köbel < s7976889 at stud.uni-frankfurt.de>
>> To: pierzenh at yahoo.fr, mhairi.ohara at hotosm.org, danspecht at gmail.com,
>> Â severin.menard at gmail.com, jwhelan0112 at gmail.com,
>> claire.halleux at hotosm.org ,
>> Â yantisa.akhadi at hotosm.org, bgirardot at gmail.com, nick.allen.54 at gmail.com
>> ,
>> Â techlady at techlady.com
>> Cc: mikel_maron at yahoo.com, kate.chapman at hotosm.org,
>> Â domi.wehner at googlemail.com , fabian_will at hotmail.com,
>> elzumweh at gmail.com,
>> Â burger at geo.uni-frankfurt.de
>> Subject: Survey Goethe-University Frankfurt a. M. Department of Human
>> Â Geography
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>> Dear HOT-Users,
>> We are a group of social-geography students at the
>> Department of Human Geography at the Goethe-University
>> Frankfurt a.M. and would like to ask for your assistance
>> in our student research project about Volunteered Geographic
>> Information Systems in general and Humanitarian OpenStreetMap
>> Team in particular.
>> We would be interested in conducting a survey among all
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap participants, about their experiences
>> with Humanitarian OpenStreetMap and their motivation to
>> particpate in Humanitarian OpenStreetMap.
>> One of the main aspects we want to examine is how the
>> respondents are related to the areas they map for Humanitarian
>> OpenStreetMap and to determine their socio-demographic
>> background.
>> This survey is supposed to be the centerpiece of our research
>> project so we would be very thankful for your cooperation.
>> We chose your mail adress from the HOT mailing list to help us
>> optimize our work with a pretest, if you have some time to spare.
>> If you click the link below and answer the questions in the survey
>> and maybe give some feedback at the end of it, we will be able to
>> find possible errors in our survey design. As mentioned before, this
>> is a pretest, so if you like you can still participate in the final
>> survey we will hopefully send out in a couple of weeks so we can
>> work with the interesting answers and insights you might give to us.
>> Here you will find the link to our anonymous survey
>> hot.geomedienlabor.de
>> For reference about our research project we would like to refer you to
>> our lecturer, David Burger ( burger at geo.uni-frankfurt.de).
>> We would gladly share the results of our research project with you.
>> Best regards,
>> Simon Köbel, Dominik Wehner, Lucas Wenzel, Fabian Will
>> Charlotte Wolter
>> 927 18th Street Suite A
>> Santa Monica, California
>> 90403
>> +1-310-597-4040
>> techlady at techlady.com
>> Skype: thetechlady
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