[HOT] "Training" volunteers in Albania

Besfort Guri besiguri at gmail.com
Tue Apr 14 13:50:24 UTC 2015

Dear all,

We talked a lot for this issues, what I suggest for Albania is a Mapathon
for over the weekend in Tirana.


On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Luca Paolo Pescatore <multivac2x at gmail.com>

> Things Lab
> https://www.facebook.com/ThingsLabTirana
> Is the group that I am supporting now, one of the member of the lab wants
> to work with OSM.
> I will put him in contact with you.
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Mike Dupont <
> jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>> check out openlabs.com which is a group who is working on open source
>> and knowledge projects in Albania.
>> in 2010 I was working on the flooding in Shokder, work page here with
>> some non dead links.
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AlbanianFloodingCrisisCamp
>> We have a mailing list with many users from Kosovo on it, there might be
>> some from Albania.
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gis-kosova
>> mike
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:54 AM, malenki <osm_ at malenki.ch> wrote:
>>> About a month ago I stumbled over some beginners mapping in Tirana
>>> (capital of Albania).
>>> Though the edits were not too useful they were tagged with
>>> #hotosm-project-926 #PeaceCorps #PeaceCorpsAlbania source=Bing
>>> so I thought to do nothing for the time being since the connected task
>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/926 said
>>> | The Peace Corps Program in Tirana is training Volunteers […]
>>> But after a month the data isn't changed/corrected and my message¹ to
>>> the creator of the task sent on 24th of March still is not answered.
>>> A mentioning of the issue on IRC on March 28th also don't give results.
>>> My view of the issue is:
>>> Which worth has a "training" when the trainees don't get feedback?
>>> The creator of the task (which I assume the trainer) hasn't made a
>>> single edit in Albania.
>>> The data created during the task wasn't enhanced after creating it.
>>> Now I'd like to hand over the "issue" to people with more experience
>>> in HOT.
>>> Regards
>>> Thomas
>>> ¹ The message I sent:
>>> Mirëdita [Albanian "good day"] $User
>>> you created HOT task 926¹ for training volunteers in Albania.
>>> I welcome people mapping a country I really like and of course HOT is
>>> an invaluable program. But when you are /training/ people you should
>>> also teach them how to do stuff and give feedback to what they mapped.
>>> Else they may produce just a lot of unhelpful data.
>>> I didn't investigate on purpose but so far I stumbled over following
>>> issues:
>>>     duplicate houses (mapped by the same mapper
>>>     https://www.osm.org/#map=21/41.3330021/19.7839432
>>>     houses with offset to its basements
>>>     https://www.osm.org/#map=20/41.333141/19.782218
>>>     houses drawn over highways
>>>     https://www.osm.org/#map=20/41.333141/19.782218
>>>     ways of outlines only tagged with area=yes e.g.:
>>>     https://www.osm.org/#map=19/41.334339/19.788208
>>>     In Tirana I found 103 ways which were tagged this way and
>>>     belong to HOT task 926.
>>> I also found a highway=road dragged over a correct highway which I just
>>> corrected in the hope that the other stuff would be vanish due to a
>>> training supervisor - which didn't happen.
>>> Please tell your trainees that, when they map the outline of a roof,
>>> they should afterwards drag it to the ground floor of the building. The
>>> higher the building the worse the offset due to the sloped angle of the
>>> aerial photograph. Please also tell them about the function "make
>>> rectangular" which every editor has. (When using JOSM, don't forget to
>>> mention the plugin "buildings_tools" (which enables drawing and tagging
>>> a house with two clicks) and the extrude tool).
>>> Best Regards from Germany
>>> Thomas
>>> ¹ http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/926
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>> --
>> James Michael DuPont
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