[HOT] "Training" volunteers in Albania

Besfort Guri besiguri at gmail.com
Tue Apr 14 13:53:07 UTC 2015


But also we can talk in more detials during the OSCAL conference I will be
there over the weekend so if anyone want to talk about OSM - HOT, even
other things I can share whatever they want.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Besfort Guri <besiguri at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> We talked a lot for this issues, what I suggest for Albania is a Mapathon
> for over the weekend in Tirana.
>
> Thanks,
> Besfort
>
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Luca Paolo Pescatore <
> multivac2x at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Things Lab
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/ThingsLabTirana
>>
>> Is the group that I am supporting now, one of the member of the lab wants
>> to work with OSM.
>>
>> I will put him in contact with you.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Mike Dupont <
>> jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> check out openlabs.com which is a group who is working on open source
>>> and knowledge projects in Albania.
>>>
>>> in 2010 I was working on the flooding in Shokder, work page here with
>>> some non dead links.
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AlbanianFloodingCrisisCamp
>>>
>>> We have a mailing list with many users from Kosovo on it, there might be
>>> some from Albania.
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gis-kosova
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:54 AM, malenki <osm_ at malenki.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> About a month ago I stumbled over some beginners mapping in Tirana
>>>> (capital of Albania).
>>>> Though the edits were not too useful they were tagged with
>>>> #hotosm-project-926 #PeaceCorps #PeaceCorpsAlbania source=Bing
>>>> so I thought to do nothing for the time being since the connected task
>>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/926 said
>>>> | The Peace Corps Program in Tirana is training Volunteers […]
>>>> But after a month the data isn't changed/corrected and my message¹ to
>>>> the creator of the task sent on 24th of March still is not answered.
>>>>
>>>> A mentioning of the issue on IRC on March 28th also don't give results.
>>>>
>>>> My view of the issue is:
>>>> Which worth has a "training" when the trainees don't get feedback?
>>>> The creator of the task (which I assume the trainer) hasn't made a
>>>> single edit in Albania.
>>>> The data created during the task wasn't enhanced after creating it.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'd like to hand over the "issue" to people with more experience
>>>> in HOT.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>> ¹ The message I sent:
>>>>
>>>> Mirëdita [Albanian "good day"] $User
>>>>
>>>> you created HOT task 926¹ for training volunteers in Albania.
>>>>
>>>> I welcome people mapping a country I really like and of course HOT is
>>>> an invaluable program. But when you are /training/ people you should
>>>> also teach them how to do stuff and give feedback to what they mapped.
>>>> Else they may produce just a lot of unhelpful data.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't investigate on purpose but so far I stumbled over following
>>>> issues:
>>>>
>>>>     duplicate houses (mapped by the same mapper
>>>>     https://www.osm.org/#map=21/41.3330021/19.7839432
>>>>     houses with offset to its basements
>>>>     https://www.osm.org/#map=20/41.333141/19.782218
>>>>     houses drawn over highways
>>>>     https://www.osm.org/#map=20/41.333141/19.782218
>>>>     ways of outlines only tagged with area=yes e.g.:
>>>>     https://www.osm.org/#map=19/41.334339/19.788208
>>>>     In Tirana I found 103 ways which were tagged this way and
>>>>     belong to HOT task 926.
>>>>
>>>> I also found a highway=road dragged over a correct highway which I just
>>>> corrected in the hope that the other stuff would be vanish due to a
>>>> training supervisor - which didn't happen.
>>>>
>>>> Please tell your trainees that, when they map the outline of a roof,
>>>> they should afterwards drag it to the ground floor of the building. The
>>>> higher the building the worse the offset due to the sloped angle of the
>>>> aerial photograph. Please also tell them about the function "make
>>>> rectangular" which every editor has. (When using JOSM, don't forget to
>>>> mention the plugin "buildings_tools" (which enables drawing and tagging
>>>> a house with two clicks) and the extrude tool).
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards from Germany
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>> ¹ http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/926
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>
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>
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*Besfort Guri*
GIS Developer

*IRuSP - Implemtation and Enforcement of*
*Rural Planning Project*

+386 49 87 75 75
Blog: http://www.bguri.net

An EU funded project managed by
EU Office in Kosovo
Implemented by NIRAS in consortium with DLG and INSI

Address: Str Shaban Polluzha, No 3, Prishtina, Kosovo
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