[HOT] "Training" volunteers in Albania

Redon Skikuli rskikuli at gmail.com
Tue Apr 14 17:21:04 UTC 2015


Bestfort there will be open table discussions at OSCAL. I think there is
potential to generate interest about this much needed service of OSM in
Albania.

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On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Besfort Guri <besiguri at gmail.com> wrote:

> But also we can talk in more detials during the OSCAL conference I will be
> there over the weekend so if anyone want to talk about OSM - HOT, even
> other things I can share whatever they want.
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Besfort Guri <besiguri at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> We talked a lot for this issues, what I suggest for Albania is a Mapathon
>> for over the weekend in Tirana.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Besfort
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Luca Paolo Pescatore <
>> multivac2x at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Things Lab
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/ThingsLabTirana
>>>
>>> Is the group that I am supporting now, one of the member of the lab
>>> wants to work with OSM.
>>>
>>> I will put him in contact with you.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Mike Dupont <
>>> jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Howdy,
>>>>
>>>> check out openlabs.com which is a group who is working on open source
>>>> and knowledge projects in Albania.
>>>>
>>>> in 2010 I was working on the flooding in Shokder, work page here with
>>>> some non dead links.
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AlbanianFloodingCrisisCamp
>>>>
>>>> We have a mailing list with many users from Kosovo on it, there might
>>>> be some from Albania.
>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gis-kosova
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:54 AM, malenki <osm_ at malenki.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> About a month ago I stumbled over some beginners mapping in Tirana
>>>>> (capital of Albania).
>>>>> Though the edits were not too useful they were tagged with
>>>>> #hotosm-project-926 #PeaceCorps #PeaceCorpsAlbania source=Bing
>>>>> so I thought to do nothing for the time being since the connected task
>>>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/926 said
>>>>> | The Peace Corps Program in Tirana is training Volunteers […]
>>>>> But after a month the data isn't changed/corrected and my message¹ to
>>>>> the creator of the task sent on 24th of March still is not answered.
>>>>>
>>>>> A mentioning of the issue on IRC on March 28th also don't give results.
>>>>>
>>>>> My view of the issue is:
>>>>> Which worth has a "training" when the trainees don't get feedback?
>>>>> The creator of the task (which I assume the trainer) hasn't made a
>>>>> single edit in Albania.
>>>>> The data created during the task wasn't enhanced after creating it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I'd like to hand over the "issue" to people with more experience
>>>>> in HOT.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>
>>>>> ¹ The message I sent:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mirëdita [Albanian "good day"] $User
>>>>>
>>>>> you created HOT task 926¹ for training volunteers in Albania.
>>>>>
>>>>> I welcome people mapping a country I really like and of course HOT is
>>>>> an invaluable program. But when you are /training/ people you should
>>>>> also teach them how to do stuff and give feedback to what they mapped.
>>>>> Else they may produce just a lot of unhelpful data.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't investigate on purpose but so far I stumbled over following
>>>>> issues:
>>>>>
>>>>>     duplicate houses (mapped by the same mapper
>>>>>     https://www.osm.org/#map=21/41.3330021/19.7839432
>>>>>     houses with offset to its basements
>>>>>     https://www.osm.org/#map=20/41.333141/19.782218
>>>>>     houses drawn over highways
>>>>>     https://www.osm.org/#map=20/41.333141/19.782218
>>>>>     ways of outlines only tagged with area=yes e.g.:
>>>>>     https://www.osm.org/#map=19/41.334339/19.788208
>>>>>     In Tirana I found 103 ways which were tagged this way and
>>>>>     belong to HOT task 926.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also found a highway=road dragged over a correct highway which I just
>>>>> corrected in the hope that the other stuff would be vanish due to a
>>>>> training supervisor - which didn't happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please tell your trainees that, when they map the outline of a roof,
>>>>> they should afterwards drag it to the ground floor of the building. The
>>>>> higher the building the worse the offset due to the sloped angle of the
>>>>> aerial photograph. Please also tell them about the function "make
>>>>> rectangular" which every editor has. (When using JOSM, don't forget to
>>>>> mention the plugin "buildings_tools" (which enables drawing and tagging
>>>>> a house with two clicks) and the extrude tool).
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards from Germany
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>
>>>>> ¹ http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/926
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>>
>> *Besfort Guri*
>> GIS Developer
>>
>> *IRuSP - Implemtation and Enforcement of*
>> *Rural Planning Project*
>>
>> +386 49 87 75 75
>> Blog: http://www.bguri.net
>>
>> An EU funded project managed by
>> EU Office in Kosovo
>> Implemented by NIRAS in consortium with DLG and INSI
>>
>> Address: Str Shaban Polluzha, No 3, Prishtina, Kosovo
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> *Besfort Guri*
> GIS Developer
>
> *IRuSP - Implemtation and Enforcement of*
> *Rural Planning Project*
>
> +386 49 87 75 75
> Blog: http://www.bguri.net
>
> An EU funded project managed by
> EU Office in Kosovo
> Implemented by NIRAS in consortium with DLG and INSI
>
> Address: Str Shaban Polluzha, No 3, Prishtina, Kosovo
>
>
>
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