Andrew Buck andrew.r.buck at gmail.com
Tue Apr 28 12:18:32 UTC 2015

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I do agree with you in principle, and actually suggested using the
information on the task manager linke number of tiles a user has
completed to do things like flag new users tiles for extra caution in
validating and such.  Whether we want to restrict validating by them
as well is another possibility.  We need to be very careful though to
not discourage them because new users are the people that become
experienced users a short time later and we need all the volunteers we
can get.

Also, I do think we tend to focus too much on the task manager,
especially during activations; that is why I mentioned the josm thing.
 It is an excellent tool, and we should definitely continue using it,
but we should also look at other ways more experienced mappers can
help out.  Downloading large areas by an experienced mapper and 'spot
checking' them it a very good, and efficient, way of doing QA for
those that know how.  We need to be thinking of these other, non task
manager, workflows for more experienced mappers that don't interfere
with the workers on the task managers, but also allow for more
efficient work by those who can handle the tools.

- -AndrewBuck

On 04/28/2015 06:06 AM, AYTOUN RALPH wrote:
> I am in favour of the direction Severin is proposing regarding
> privileges. If we can stop new mappers from opening tiles that have
> been validated by an experienced person then the integrity of the
> work is maintained as is. I have mentioned in the past about the
> "losing" HOT Activations amongst the myriad of Missing Maps work on
> the Task Manager and feel this would be a good time to propose a
> separate Task Manager for HOT Activations so that those activations
> stand more chance of being completed rather than disappearing down
> the bottom of a long list. Please do not misunderstand me....I am
> not belittling the Missing Maps projects or trying to pass them off
> as unimportant.... I go into London twice a month now to help
> groups of new mappers at Mapathons to join in on the Missing Maps
> Projects... I am saying that there is a difference between the
> URGENCY of people trapped under the rubble now and the URGENCY of
> an Aid Team going into an area next week. The accuracy of the
> initial input of work during a HOT Activation needs to be high
> because it is needed as soon as possible and not to wait until 
> someone has validated it to clean it up. The quality of the initial
> work going out helps the people in the field and speed up the
> process because experienced mappers are not tied up trying to get
> individual tiles up to standard and are able to do a lot more
> mapping work themselves and also work on more advanced tasks like
> identifying impromptu camps of needy people. I have to break off
> with validating for now to prepare for another Mapathon tonight to
> tutor more new mappers and help them on their way to becoming 
> prolific mappers. Thank you all for being so understanding and
> appreciating the dilemma I was seeing unfolding at an ever
> increasing rate. We all have the same goal and hope we can achieve
> them all Keep Smiling and Keep Mapping. Ralph
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