[HOT] Projects on the HOT OSM Tasking Manager - lots of them

Yantisa Akhadi yantisa.akhadi at hotosm.org
Mon Dec 7 09:50:31 UTC 2015


Hi Robert,

We planned to have the draft translated by early January next year. We
surely welcome any feedback for the draft, will keep you posted.

Best,

*Yantisa Akhadi (Iyan)*
*Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
Tel: +62 81 5787 03388  Email: yantisa.akhadi at hotosm.org
hot.openstreetmap.org | openstreetmap.id

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Robert Banick <rbanick at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Yantisa,
>
> That’s great to hear. The team I’m working with in Sri Lanka is also doing
> a lot of validation at this moment and would be interested in the
> translated version when it’s ready. Do you have an approximate translation
> date in mind?
>
> Best,
> Robert
>
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>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Yantisa Akhadi <yantisa.akhadi at hotosm.org>
> wrote:
>
>> HOT Indonesia currently developing curriculum and training material for
>> OSM Data Validation. This is to expand existing validation curriculum in
>> the Activation Curriculum. The draft is still in Indonesian language, we
>> will share it once we translate it to English. Thank you for the link
>> Maning, I believe our team can learn from it as well.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> *Yantisa Akhadi (Iyan)*
>> *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
>> Tel: +62 81 5787 03388  Email: yantisa.akhadi at hotosm.org
>> hot.openstreetmap.org | openstreetmap.id
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:00 AM, maning sambale <
>> emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We have great training materials to onboard new mappers.  Maybe its
>>> time to focus on developing more materials for validation and recruit
>>> more validators?
>>>
>>> The current tasking manager requires you to validate each task.  But,
>>> in most cases, quality of edits depend on a specific mapper.  We can
>>> do validation by user edits instead of by task.  For example, at
>>> Mapbox, we regularly review every edit of our data team (to ensure we
>>> contribute quality data and we are good OSM citizens).  Instead of
>>> going through each task we review all of the edits of the user in a
>>> given project using overpass, JOSM's todo list and validator tools.
>>> See example here:
>>> https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/135#issuecomment-161922079
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Robert Banick <rbanick at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I think Daniel’s suggestion is a good idea; we don’t make nearly
>>> enough use
>>> > of the front page. I would also like the ability to use custom filters,
>>> > perhaps based off the task hashtags?
>>> >
>>> > —
>>> > Sent from Mailbox
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Daniel O'Connor <
>>> daniel.oconnor at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I raised https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/718
>>> focused
>>> >> only on the front page list/different purposes it serves. Ideas or
>>> examples
>>> >> of other 'task priority' UI encouraged.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Something that baffles me about the TM is that when a task is split,
>>> the
>>> >>> original tile seems to disappear from existence, even though people
>>> could
>>> >>> still have a reference to it, they will get a not found message and
>>> they
>>> >>> can't read the comments anymore.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As a long time OSM contritbutor, I started doing validation work. I
>>> >>> always try to read the instructions, but I also find I'm jumping
>>> between
>>> >>> tasks quite often. It poses its own challenges... Anyway, I tend to
>>> prefer
>>> >>> the tasks where not every building needs to be mapped, but sometimes
>>> it's
>>> >>> hard to find the middle ground. In a tile where almost nothing is
>>> visible,
>>> >>> I'd try to map at least something like the rivers and the occasional
>>> >>> footpath. By mapping the rivers it becomes easier to find the
>>> 'roads' where
>>> >>> they cross the rivers. And the rivers are nice reference points by
>>> >>> themselves as well, of course.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Polyglot
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2015-12-06 17:58 GMT+01:00 Dale Kunce <dale.kunce at gmail.com>:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Ralf and John.
>>> >>>> I don't either of you are ranting but providing good feedback that
>>> >>>> aligns with my own thinking about tasks. I favor smaller tasks that
>>> can be
>>> >>>> completed quickly rather than huge tasks that take multiple mappers
>>> to
>>> >>>> complete.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> One thing that I think we are moving towards is a set of guidelines
>>> for
>>> >>>> TM PMs. This will standardize a lot of language and help keep tasks
>>> >>>> manageable. I'm working on a draft that I'll share with the HOT and
>>> TM PM
>>> >>>> lists once it's ready to share.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks as always for your time.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015, 11:35 AM Ralf Stephan <gtrwst9 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> The key for moving people from one-time to many-time contribution
>>> is
>>> >>>>> motivation.
>>> >>>>> I have seen volunteers suddenly much more motivated when I
>>> commented
>>> >>>>> with more
>>> >>>>> than a few words on a validation I did. But at least equally
>>> important
>>> >>>>> is task and tile size.
>>> >>>>> Large tasks are tackled more than a few times only by long-time
>>> >>>>> contributors. Why have
>>> >>>>> such big tasks when there is no hurry? I know I am more motivated
>>> if
>>> >>>>> tile sizes are small.
>>> >>>>> I'm sure it's more so with new contributors, so why have such large
>>> >>>>> tiles per default, if
>>> >>>>> they aren't completed anyway? Everything is made ever more casual,
>>> but
>>> >>>>> I need 30-60
>>> >>>>> minutes to complete the smallest tile size to my satisfaction.
>>> Please
>>> >>>>> increase the split
>>> >>>>> count AND make the default tile size smaller, or you will never get
>>> >>>>> enough completed tiles by people who want to invest rather 15 than
>>> minutes.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Sorry for ranting
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