[HOT] Projects on the HOT OSM Tasking Manager - lots of them

Mon Dec 7 09:40:32 UTC 2015

Hi Yantisa,

That’s great to hear. The team I’m working with in Sri Lanka is also doing a lot of validation at this moment and would be interested in the translated version when it’s ready. Do you have an approximate translation date in mind?

Best,

Robert

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On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Yantisa Akhadi <yantisa.akhadi at hotosm.org>
wrote:

> HOT Indonesia currently developing curriculum and training material for OSM
> Data Validation. This is to expand existing validation curriculum in the
> Activation Curriculum. The draft is still in Indonesian language, we will
> share it once we translate it to English. Thank you for the link Maning, I
> believe our team can learn from it as well.
> Best,
> *Yantisa Akhadi (Iyan)*
> *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
> Tel: +62 81 5787 03388  Email: yantisa.akhadi at hotosm.org
> hot.openstreetmap.org | openstreetmap.id
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:00 AM, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> We have great training materials to onboard new mappers.  Maybe its
>> time to focus on developing more materials for validation and recruit
>> more validators?
>>
>> The current tasking manager requires you to validate each task.  But,
>> in most cases, quality of edits depend on a specific mapper.  We can
>> do validation by user edits instead of by task.  For example, at
>> Mapbox, we regularly review every edit of our data team (to ensure we
>> contribute quality data and we are good OSM citizens).  Instead of
>> going through each task we review all of the edits of the user in a
>> given project using overpass, JOSM's todo list and validator tools.
>> See example here:
>> https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/135#issuecomment-161922079
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Robert Banick <rbanick at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I think Daniel’s suggestion is a good idea; we don’t make nearly enough
>> use
>> > of the front page. I would also like the ability to use custom filters,
>> > perhaps based off the task hashtags?
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Daniel O'Connor <
>> daniel.oconnor at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I raised https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/718
>> focused
>> >> only on the front page list/different purposes it serves. Ideas or
>> examples
>> >> of other 'task priority' UI encouraged.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Something that baffles me about the TM is that when a task is split,
>> the
>> >>> original tile seems to disappear from existence, even though people
>> could
>> >>> still have a reference to it, they will get a not found message and
>> they
>> >>> can't read the comments anymore.
>> >>>
>> >>> As a long time OSM contritbutor, I started doing validation work. I
>> >>> always try to read the instructions, but I also find I'm jumping
>> between
>> >>> tasks quite often. It poses its own challenges... Anyway, I tend to
>> prefer
>> >>> the tasks where not every building needs to be mapped, but sometimes
>> it's
>> >>> hard to find the middle ground. In a tile where almost nothing is
>> visible,
>> >>> I'd try to map at least something like the rivers and the occasional
>> >>> footpath. By mapping the rivers it becomes easier to find the 'roads'
>> where
>> >>> they cross the rivers. And the rivers are nice reference points by
>> >>> themselves as well, of course.
>> >>>
>> >>> Polyglot
>> >>>
>> >>> 2015-12-06 17:58 GMT+01:00 Dale Kunce <dale.kunce at gmail.com>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ralf and John.
>> >>>> I don't either of you are ranting but providing good feedback that
>> >>>> aligns with my own thinking about tasks. I favor smaller tasks that
>> can be
>> >>>> completed quickly rather than huge tasks that take multiple mappers to
>> >>>> complete.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> One thing that I think we are moving towards is a set of guidelines
>> for
>> >>>> TM PMs. This will standardize a lot of language and help keep tasks
>> >>>> manageable. I'm working on a draft that I'll share with the HOT and
>> TM PM
>> >>>> lists once it's ready to share.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks as always for your time.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015, 11:35 AM Ralf Stephan <gtrwst9 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The key for moving people from one-time to many-time contribution is
>> >>>>> motivation.
>> >>>>> I have seen volunteers suddenly much more motivated when I commented
>> >>>>> with more
>> >>>>> than a few words on a validation I did. But at least equally
>> important
>> >>>>> is task and tile size.
>> >>>>> Large tasks are tackled more than a few times only by long-time
>> >>>>> contributors. Why have
>> >>>>> such big tasks when there is no hurry? I know I am more motivated if
>> >>>>> tile sizes are small.
>> >>>>> I'm sure it's more so with new contributors, so why have such large
>> >>>>> tiles per default, if
>> >>>>> they aren't completed anyway? Everything is made ever more casual,
>> but
>> >>>>> I need 30-60
>> >>>>> minutes to complete the smallest tile size to my satisfaction. Please
>> >>>>> increase the split
>> >>>>> count AND make the default tile size smaller, or you will never get
>> >>>>> enough completed tiles by people who want to invest rather 15 than
>> minutes.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sorry for ranting
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