[HOT] [Talk-bd] OSM for mitigation project

Frederic Moine frmoine at gmail.com
Mon Feb 2 21:40:54 UTC 2015


Dear Ahasan,

Thanks for your replay,

Let see how far we can go in Haiti,

We take our time to be sure to involve the local population and OSM contributors .
And is not so easy : )

For UAVs we train pilots because the material remains expensive .
And there is also a safety issue , so we have permits to fly in France and Haiti .
And it is rather good news that there was a framework for UAV flight authorization
in Bangladesh.

For NDVI we will let you know, but our methodology for the moment is done on a small watershed.
Not like the one we have seen in Bangladesh, so we will need to adapt the tool and methodology according
to the field reality.

All the best, FredM




If you have some contact
On 02.02.2015 19:42, Ahasanul Hoque wrote:
> Dear Frederic,
> Think you already have got my reply of your earlier mail ccd with 
> viven and steven.
> As I told in earlier mail that since 2014 jan there is restriction on 
> flying drone without permission. One of my Japanese researches group 
> (cc) have done almost same study as you in Jamalpur district in 2013. 
> It was an ADB funded Govt (Bangladesh Water Development Board) 
> project. I think you could get the permission through BWDB or DDM.
>
> I have read your methodology used in Haiti and like the PGIS approach, 
> it can give an accurate data set. Wondered to see that you are using 
> NIR camera and NDVI data also what was not used in Haiti. Waiting to 
> see its use. It will be an interesting study for me. Some tools are 
> not familiar to me like Orfeo-toolbox and Pix4D.
>
> See you in April.
>
> Best regards
>
> Ahasan
>
>
> .....................................................................................
> Ahasanul Hoque
> ****GIS & Data Mgt Specialist
> ********The World Bank.****
> MSc in RS and GIS | AIT, Thailand. MSc. in Env. Science| KU, Bangladesh.
> *Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response* |
> Uni of Hawai-USA, UNU, Keio& Okayama - Japan; AIT-Thailand/./
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>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Frederic Moine <frmoine at gmail.com 
> <mailto:frmoine at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Syed,
>
>     I hope everything is going well.
>     I will try in the following weeks to move on this authorization to
>     fly in Bangladesh, any help are welcome.
>
>     We are working on a new methodology to use drone on risk reduction
>     project ( with OpenStreetMap Haiti, I am also an OSM contributor).
>     We will test a Near Infra Red NIR camera for land cover /land use
>     work.
>
>     We will see how far we can go.
>
>     We will use this camera S110 NIR
>     https://www.sensefly.com/drones/accessories.html
>
>     https://support.pix4d.com/hc/en-us/articles/202561429-Example-Datasets-Available-for-Download-Agriculture
>     https://www.sensefly.com/examples-of-postflight-processing.html
>     https://www.sensefly.com/applications/agriculture.html
>
>     So let see if it can be useful during a pilot test end April/May
>     in Bangladesh.
>
>     Even if we will do with an NGO, I am still using a Drone for OSM
>     activities, as a OSM contributor to improve our worklfow and try
>     to find useful use of it.
>
>     So don't hesitate to contact me, especially to see with the
>     authorization.
>
>
>     PS:
>     All our imagery are on OSM France server (Jean Guilhem are doing
>     the maintenance)  . Available as WMS / TMS link
>      2014 images 
>     tms:http://wms.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/haiti_2014/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
>     2013 images  
>     tms:http://wms.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/iomhaiti/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
>
>     Or directly in JOSM if you check supplier = HT / Imagerie Drone
>     2014 (Haïti)  or HT / Imagerie drone (Haïti)
>
>     https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Preferences/Imagery
>
>
>     Software:
>     We will use Pix4D for the mosaic
>
>     And for the extraction of the land cover and other ( NDVI ) we
>     will use Orfeo toolbox http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/
>
>     All the best FredM
>
>
>     On 19.01.2015 20:51, Syed Ishtiaque Ahmed wrote:
>>     Hi Fred,
>>
>>     Thanks for your email. I think deploying drones will be a great
>>     idea for mapping those places for better hydrological modeling. I
>>     believe the marked areas are mostly rural in nature, and I don't
>>     expect tall buildings there. However, we sure can check that
>>     accurately. I also believe that the permission from the flight
>>     regulation authority is possible. I know couple of people, who
>>     can help us on that regard. Previously, we have seen drones being
>>     deployed in different agricultural projects in rural Bangladesh,
>>     and I dont think it will be difficult for us to get the permission.
>>
>>     I am copying this email with couple of my friends, who can give
>>     you more information. Please let us know if you have any other
>>     question. Also, please feel free to keep me in the loop.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Ishtiaque
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:51 AM, Fred Moine <frmoine at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:frmoine at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Dear all,
>>
>>         Terre des Hommes has conducted a DRR (disaster risk
>>         reduction) mission in Haiti with OSM Haiti (they have seen
>>         the Drone + mapping party
>>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujTiYoi33_g&feature=youtu.be
>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujTiYoi33_g&feature=youtu.be%C2%A0%20>
>>         and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oou32o-jR0M
>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oou32o-jR0M%C2%A0%20> )
>>
>>         And now Tdh Bangladesh would like to deploy**the OSM Haiti
>>         methodology and Drone in Bangladesh**for their mitigation
>>         project in this area of interest
>>         http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/tdh-bangladesh-drr_24362#10/25.6811/89.8242
>>
>>         What do you think?  The idea is to have the best open
>>         database to improve hydrological modelling  (we discussed 
>>         the methodology in this events
>>         http://eguworkshop.deltares.nl/index.php/agenda/index
>>
>>         Including local knowledge about the risk, a good elevation
>>         model (height of the building, an up to date land cover,
>>         road, etc....).
>>
>>         For sure we will need to obtain permission from the flight
>>         regulation authority,
>>         http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2014/01/30/caab-baf-permission-needed-to-fly-drones,
>>         Any idea, possible not possible in your country.
>>
>>
>>         All the best FredM OSM contributor
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Syed Ishtiaque Ahmed
>>     PhD Student (Fulbright S&T Fellow)
>>     Department of Information Science
>>     Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14850, US.
>>     web: https://sites.google.com/site/siakallol/
>>
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