[HOT] Questions regarding Missing Maps Mapping Party in the Netherlands

Milo van der Linden milo at dogodigi.net
Wed Feb 4 20:24:17 UTC 2015

Why go through the trouble of installing? People are doing remote tasks and
have no gpx files, field papers or geotagged photos. Because then I would
certainly advise josm.

I think time is valuable. If you have 10 computers and spend 5 minutes per
install, you lost an hour of a half day event..
On Feb 4, 2015 8:37 PM, "Jan van Bekkum" <jan.vanbekkum at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can't you ask participants to install JOSM before they arrive?
> On Wed Feb 04 2015 at 8:21:56 PM Jorieke Vyncke <jorieke.vyncke at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hello Willy,
>> Just some of my thoughts:
>> In Antwerp we used JOSM because we had loads of time. It takes maybe a
>> little longer to install JOSM, but teaching and learning how to map is on
>> the same level. You only have more mapping possibilities with JOSM... On
>> the installation, when everybody is arriving at the mapathon and setting up
>> his computer, you can let the participants already install JOSM and make
>> them create a login before the 'real training' starts.
>> If you are not sure about the stability of the internet connection it
>> might also be better to use JOSM, because for ID you need all the time a
>> stable internet connection.
>> Further; are people bringing their own laptops or not? If you are
>> planning to work on fixed computers it might be better to work with ID,
>> because in a lot of universities, companies, etc. there are restrictions in
>> installing JOSM or other software on their computers. So if you plan to
>> work with JOSM on fixed computers it might be good check and to install
>> JOSM already on every computer of the room. If you plan to work with ID,
>> you shouldn't have any problems.
>> But one of the main important things is: what is your favourite mapping
>> editor? Because this editor you probably can explain the best. Besides you,
>> as teacher, you also need some 'helpers' who can stand behind the mappers
>> who are trying to follow what you are explaining. In my opinion it's the
>> best to have at least 1 person behind 6 or 7 participants, to guide them in
>> the mapping. So these people also need to master ID or JOSM.
>> Please inform me about what you decided, so we can share some more advice
>> with you
>> And for the validation, I absolutely follow Dan. :-)
>> Groetjes, Jorieke
>> 2015-02-04 9:30 GMT+01:00 Dan S <danstowell+osm at gmail.com>:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'd recommend using iD for beginners - and actually, I'd recommend
>>> using iD if this is your first time organising a mapping party,
>>> because if you use JOSM you will be submerged in annoying problems
>>> installing JOSM on people's computers and that's no fun! It can be
>>> done but it helps to have more experience.
>>> For validating, I'd say any mapper who can use JOSM and has been
>>> involved in a couple of HOT tasks in the past. It's definitely a good
>>> idea of yours to validate as soon as possible, and get feedback
>>> straight back to the people you're working with.
>>> Have fun!
>>> Best
>>> Dan
>>> 2015-02-04 7:59 GMT+00:00 Willy Bakker <friesewoudloper at gmail.com>:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > In the Netherlands we are organizing a Missing Maps Mapping Party the
>>> 14th
>>> > of february.
>>> > I'd really like your feedback on two questions we have:
>>> >
>>> > Firstly, which editor would you recommend for beginners? In Berlin
>>> during
>>> > the Open Knowledge Festival I attended a HOT workshop where the iD
>>> editor
>>> > was used; at the mapping party in Antwerp in december they used JOSM.
>>> Which
>>> > one is the best for beginners?
>>> >
>>> > Secondly, we think it is important that tasks that are done are
>>> validated as
>>> > soon as possible. Because of that we would like to 'appoint' an
>>> experienced
>>> > mapper at the mapping party to validate the done tasks. But what are
>>> the
>>> > requirements for this person? Can any experienced mapper validate
>>> tasks?
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Willy Bakker
>>> >
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