[HOT] Questions regarding Missing Maps Mapping Party in the Netherlands

Jan van Bekkum jan.vanbekkum at gmail.com
Wed Feb 4 19:36:42 UTC 2015

Can't you ask participants to install JOSM before they arrive?

On Wed Feb 04 2015 at 8:21:56 PM Jorieke Vyncke <jorieke.vyncke at gmail.com>

> Hello Willy,
> Just some of my thoughts:
> In Antwerp we used JOSM because we had loads of time. It takes maybe a
> little longer to install JOSM, but teaching and learning how to map is on
> the same level. You only have more mapping possibilities with JOSM... On
> the installation, when everybody is arriving at the mapathon and setting up
> his computer, you can let the participants already install JOSM and make
> them create a login before the 'real training' starts.
> If you are not sure about the stability of the internet connection it
> might also be better to use JOSM, because for ID you need all the time a
> stable internet connection.
> Further; are people bringing their own laptops or not? If you are planning
> to work on fixed computers it might be better to work with ID, because in a
> lot of universities, companies, etc. there are restrictions in installing
> JOSM or other software on their computers. So if you plan to work with JOSM
> on fixed computers it might be good check and to install JOSM already on
> every computer of the room. If you plan to work with ID, you shouldn't have
> any problems.
> But one of the main important things is: what is your favourite mapping
> editor? Because this editor you probably can explain the best. Besides you,
> as teacher, you also need some 'helpers' who can stand behind the mappers
> who are trying to follow what you are explaining. In my opinion it's the
> best to have at least 1 person behind 6 or 7 participants, to guide them in
> the mapping. So these people also need to master ID or JOSM.
> Please inform me about what you decided, so we can share some more advice
> with you
> And for the validation, I absolutely follow Dan. :-)
> Groetjes, Jorieke
> 2015-02-04 9:30 GMT+01:00 Dan S <danstowell+osm at gmail.com>:
>> Hi,
>> I'd recommend using iD for beginners - and actually, I'd recommend
>> using iD if this is your first time organising a mapping party,
>> because if you use JOSM you will be submerged in annoying problems
>> installing JOSM on people's computers and that's no fun! It can be
>> done but it helps to have more experience.
>> For validating, I'd say any mapper who can use JOSM and has been
>> involved in a couple of HOT tasks in the past. It's definitely a good
>> idea of yours to validate as soon as possible, and get feedback
>> straight back to the people you're working with.
>> Have fun!
>> Best
>> Dan
>> 2015-02-04 7:59 GMT+00:00 Willy Bakker <friesewoudloper at gmail.com>:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > In the Netherlands we are organizing a Missing Maps Mapping Party the
>> 14th
>> > of february.
>> > I'd really like your feedback on two questions we have:
>> >
>> > Firstly, which editor would you recommend for beginners? In Berlin
>> during
>> > the Open Knowledge Festival I attended a HOT workshop where the iD
>> editor
>> > was used; at the mapping party in Antwerp in december they used JOSM.
>> Which
>> > one is the best for beginners?
>> >
>> > Secondly, we think it is important that tasks that are done are
>> validated as
>> > soon as possible. Because of that we would like to 'appoint' an
>> experienced
>> > mapper at the mapping party to validate the done tasks. But what are the
>> > requirements for this person? Can any experienced mapper validate tasks?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Willy Bakker
>> >
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