[HOT] Questions regarding Missing Maps Mapping Party in the Netherlands

Milo van der Linden milo at dogodigi.net
Thu Feb 5 07:16:51 UTC 2015


JOSM can be ran from anywhere, as long as java is installed. So there is a
risk that you need to install java during the mappathon.
On Feb 4, 2015 11:48 PM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I seem to recall that JOSM can be run from a USB stick.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 4 February 2015 at 15:24, Milo van der Linden <milo at dogodigi.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Why go through the trouble of installing? People are doing remote tasks
>> and have no gpx files, field papers or geotagged photos. Because then I
>> would certainly advise josm.
>>
>> I think time is valuable. If you have 10 computers and spend 5 minutes
>> per install, you lost an hour of a half day event..
>> On Feb 4, 2015 8:37 PM, "Jan van Bekkum" <jan.vanbekkum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Can't you ask participants to install JOSM before they arrive?
>>>
>>> On Wed Feb 04 2015 at 8:21:56 PM Jorieke Vyncke <
>>> jorieke.vyncke at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Willy,
>>>>
>>>> Just some of my thoughts:
>>>>
>>>> In Antwerp we used JOSM because we had loads of time. It takes maybe a
>>>> little longer to install JOSM, but teaching and learning how to map is on
>>>> the same level. You only have more mapping possibilities with JOSM... On
>>>> the installation, when everybody is arriving at the mapathon and setting up
>>>> his computer, you can let the participants already install JOSM and make
>>>> them create a login before the 'real training' starts.
>>>>
>>>> If you are not sure about the stability of the internet connection it
>>>> might also be better to use JOSM, because for ID you need all the time a
>>>> stable internet connection.
>>>>
>>>> Further; are people bringing their own laptops or not? If you are
>>>> planning to work on fixed computers it might be better to work with ID,
>>>> because in a lot of universities, companies, etc. there are restrictions in
>>>> installing JOSM or other software on their computers. So if you plan to
>>>> work with JOSM on fixed computers it might be good check and to install
>>>> JOSM already on every computer of the room. If you plan to work with ID,
>>>> you shouldn't have any problems.
>>>>
>>>> But one of the main important things is: what is your favourite mapping
>>>> editor? Because this editor you probably can explain the best. Besides you,
>>>> as teacher, you also need some 'helpers' who can stand behind the mappers
>>>> who are trying to follow what you are explaining. In my opinion it's the
>>>> best to have at least 1 person behind 6 or 7 participants, to guide them in
>>>> the mapping. So these people also need to master ID or JOSM.
>>>>
>>>> Please inform me about what you decided, so we can share some more
>>>> advice with you
>>>>
>>>> And for the validation, I absolutely follow Dan. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Groetjes, Jorieke
>>>>
>>>> 2015-02-04 9:30 GMT+01:00 Dan S <danstowell+osm at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd recommend using iD for beginners - and actually, I'd recommend
>>>>> using iD if this is your first time organising a mapping party,
>>>>> because if you use JOSM you will be submerged in annoying problems
>>>>> installing JOSM on people's computers and that's no fun! It can be
>>>>> done but it helps to have more experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> For validating, I'd say any mapper who can use JOSM and has been
>>>>> involved in a couple of HOT tasks in the past. It's definitely a good
>>>>> idea of yours to validate as soon as possible, and get feedback
>>>>> straight back to the people you're working with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have fun!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-02-04 7:59 GMT+00:00 Willy Bakker <friesewoudloper at gmail.com>:
>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In the Netherlands we are organizing a Missing Maps Mapping Party
>>>>> the 14th
>>>>> > of february.
>>>>> > I'd really like your feedback on two questions we have:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Firstly, which editor would you recommend for beginners? In Berlin
>>>>> during
>>>>> > the Open Knowledge Festival I attended a HOT workshop where the iD
>>>>> editor
>>>>> > was used; at the mapping party in Antwerp in december they used
>>>>> JOSM. Which
>>>>> > one is the best for beginners?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Secondly, we think it is important that tasks that are done are
>>>>> validated as
>>>>> > soon as possible. Because of that we would like to 'appoint' an
>>>>> experienced
>>>>> > mapper at the mapping party to validate the done tasks. But what are
>>>>> the
>>>>> > requirements for this person? Can any experienced mapper validate
>>>>> tasks?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Willy Bakker
>>>>> >
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