[HOT] Validation

Vao Matua vaomatua at gmail.com
Mon Feb 16 14:40:03 UTC 2015

Nick, Blake & althio, Good practical advice.
I think it is important to remember that there are humans on either side of
the validation.
There have been times when I added a few features and then validated, other
times I start adding and realize that quite a bit had been missed and then
I'm kind of stuck and just finish it off.  Hopefully I'm not leaving a
similar trail for others to clean up.

A suggestion for the HOT Tasking Manager Stats page would be to add the
number of tiles an individual mapper Validates.

As John says "we have a lot of tiles to map".

Map on


On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:59 AM, althio <althio.forum at gmail.com> wrote:

> My personal views is that statuses done/validated/invalidated should be
> related to progress and quality of the current state of mapping.
> We should not use that to give feedback or give implicitly a notation to
> previous mappers.
> Use comments (with @-mentions) for feedback.
> A "notation" of mappers is a very complex and different problem.
> Pragmatic / Real situation answers
> Empty tile or most work not done: invalidated, short comment.
> A bit of work left to do ie. a few missing elements or tagging errors. I
> would do corrections to bring the mapping standard up to required level, I
> would add detailed comment to provide feedback or guidance. If I am
> confident enough with the previous work and my minor edits, I validate
> since the tile is now OK. Otherwise I leave it to another reviewer.
> In between? It depends on the mood and available time obviously and the
> limits between cases are fuzzy.
> If I have too little time or it is too much corrections I would go for the
> comments only with @-mentions, most of the time with no further
> validation/invalidation. If I avoid invalidation I hope the comment is
> enough for track record and bring attention to previous and potential
> mappers. This is taking care of community over quality and I appreciate
> that opinions may differ.
> john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Question at what point should I invalidate?  The question arises when
>> perhaps I've added a dozen settlements and half a dozen highways, I'm
>> fairly experienced so fairly comfortable the work is OK after I've added in
>> the validation but there is the question that I've added a dozen
>> settlements and no one else will be validating.
>> I'm looking more for pragmatic answers more than anything else, there is
>> a concern that if I invalidate a tile it may demotivate a mapper and at the
>> moment we have a lot of tiles to map.
>> Thanks
>> Cheerio John
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