[HOT] Request for information about common set of tags for HOT (Was: OSM Nepal Reponse - Links to various infos)

Stefan Keller sfkeller at gmail.com
Mon Jun 8 09:25:01 UTC 2015


Hi Mhairi

Thanks four invitation.
I'm sorry that I can't attend the Technical WG meeting today at 17:00 UTC.
But I assume and hope Blake can.
It seemed to me that he's leading a process since he wrote:

2015-05-20 15:47 GMT+02:00 Blake Girardot <bgirardot at gmail.com>:
> I just want to put a small slow down on this process.
>
> HOT is in the midst of discussing its over all tagging strategy and needs to
> do so on the public lists shortly here.

Cheers, Stefan


2015-06-08 6:33 GMT+02:00 Mhairi O'Hara <mhairi.ohara at hotosm.org>:
> Hey Stefan,
>
> We are currently working on a project aimed at tidying and enhancing the
> Export Tool and are drafting a usability questionnaire as part of it in
> order to address some of these issues you have mentioned in your messages
> linked to the tweet.
>
> This is exactly what is needed and what we would like to achieve. I am going
> through your proposed lists, but would love more of your input and was
> wondering if you will be attending the Technical WG meeting today at 17:00
> UTC?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mhairi O'Hara
>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Stefan Keller <sfkeller at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear HOT team
>>
>> Take the chance and discuss common tags, document them in the wiki,
>> cleanup the wiki, and update the preset file [1].
>>
>> -S.
>>
>> [1] https://twitter.com/sfkeller/status/607323469202747393
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-05-20 15:47 GMT+02:00 Blake Girardot <bgirardot at gmail.com>:
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > I just want to put a small slow down on this process.
>> >
>> > HOT is in the midst of discussing its over all tagging strategy and
>> > needs to
>> > do so on the public lists shortly here.
>> >
>> > quickly as to the potential helicopter landing sites:
>> >
>> > aeroway=helipad
>> >
>> > Is _only_ for confirmed helipads. That tag means something and it is not
>> > for
>> > guesses. If something is marked aeroway=helipad it is because there is a
>> > Circle H there or someone on the ground has confirmed it is a helipad.
>> >
>> > Even something like emergency=landing_site is too concrete for the
>> > potential
>> > landing sites we have been mapping.
>> >
>> > We have settled for now on:
>> >
>> > emergency:helipad=potential
>> > damage:event=nepal_earthquake_2015
>> >
>> > To emphasize these are just potential sites and literally nothing more.
>> > It
>> > is not easy to properly identify actual, for sure, emergency landing
>> > sites
>> > via aerial imagery. We have been getting feedback from on the ground
>> > that
>> > some of the areas we identified are in fact acceptable and we can then
>> > change potential to yes.
>> >
>> > So I have started the process of going over the wiki pages Stefan
>> > pointed
>> > out and thinking about how the requests for our mapping have evolved
>> > since
>> > then, which is really what drives all our mapping and tagging, requests
>> > from
>> > our field partners.
>> >
>> > Speak with you all soon,
>> > Cheers,
>> > Blake
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/20/2015 2:14 PM, Andreas Goss wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> there seems to be little information related to the emergency relief
>> >>> effort.  In over 366,000 records there are only 19 marked as aeroway =
>> >>> helipad.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I already brought this up on the tagging mailinglist. The problem is
>> >> that someone had the great idea to tag those as leisure=common, which
>> >> is
>> >> honestly one of the worst defined and most abigious OSM Tags in geneal
>> >> (in my opinion this is a UK only tag due to legal implications), just
>> >> check out the Wiki.
>> >> And what makes it really bad is that you can correctly tag places as
>> >> leisure=common where no helicopter can land.
>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon
>> >>
>> >> Now aeroway=helipad probablay wasn't used, because it's really meant
>> >> for
>> >> places designed and designated for a helicopter to land not just where
>> >> it could land. Even though the decription isn't that clear, I think it
>> >> was the correct move not to use it.
>> >>
>> >> The question is why not have a new tag?
>> >> And then it actually turned out that in Poland they are already using a
>> >> Tag that could have been used by HOT:
>> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dlanding_site
>> >>
>> >> __________
>> >> openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88
>> >> wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88‎
>> >>
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