[HOT] Mayendit task

Pete Masters pedrito1414 at googlemail.com
Thu Mar 12 11:30:12 UTC 2015

Hello all,

Supreme thanks for the effort you made on the Mayendit task. The team has
received info that has led them to widen their assessment area. There is a
new task in the TM at http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/938

They need the hut / road data today! We have said no promises, but that we
will try our best. So, if you have time, please grab a square.

As mentioned above, we will be seeking feedback from the team on the ground
and they have offered to share pictures to help with the context.

In answer to John's question above (sorry John, I must have missed it
before), the gold standard for Missing Maps is polygons for the huts, but
in this case, with this urgency, if points are quicker, let's go for
points. These can be adjusted later.

Thanks again,


On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 11:22 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Looking at it I would concur that the imagery could be better  Also the
> expectations are not clear to me, is a generic hut ie <Crtl><V> in JOSM or
> do you want the real size of the hut?  Some tiles have the imagery listed
> in the instructions and some tiles do not.
> There seems to be a variety of mapping styles some huts are drawn, others
> are dropped in as points.
> Cheerio John
> On 7 March 2015 at 10:45, Vao Matua <vaomatua at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Pete,
>> I would appreciate the feedback from site visits.  It is difficult to
>> know if the imagery shows buildings or trees, paths or streams.
>> Hopefully the mapping will make things go faster in the field.
>> Emmor
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Pete Masters <pedrito1414 at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Pierre,
>>> I totally agree. I will ask for feedback.
>>> Also, we are trying to up our game in terms of local field mapping thus
>>> year. I guess there is no better validation.
>>> Bangladesh was super interesting, for example. Although the tracing was
>>> often way out, it was super important for the local mappers as they were
>>> able to reference their position via gos on their smartphones with their
>>> position on the field papers. With the combination of the two tools,
>>> incorrect landmarks were almost as good as correct ones. And of course,
>>> they were able to validate the tracing.
>>> It is also important, I guess, for people working with NGOs and HOT to
>>> manage expectations and make clear that tracing remotely is by no means
>>> fool proof! Variances in mapping skill, image quality, context etc...
>>> Look forward to discussing this further.
>>> Pete
>>> On 6 Mar 2015 16:53, "Pierre Béland" <pierzenh at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>>> Hi Pete
>>>> Yes, the contributors are prompt to respond to MSF and other
>>>> humanitarian organizations operational projects. And be sure that such
>>>> feedback about these projects is most appreciated by the HOT contributors.
>>>> Let me make some disgression suggesting more intensive collaboration.
>>>> We are a techy organization and the big contributors appreciate the
>>>> capacity to move forward and work more closely with the field teams, to
>>>> explore workflows to better interact. Feedback is a must to keep the
>>>> incentive to participate.  Even in the context of urgent projects, if the
>>>> teams take the time to give minimal feedback, I am convince that this will
>>>> assure a good progress of the Task Manager jobs.
>>>> The article about Ebola refered by Russell this week, presented some
>>>> criticism about the Ebola basemap quality relying it to the  Crowdsource
>>>> mapping or import of Settlement place names with duplicates.  This shows
>>>> misunderstanding about how we can collectively, the OSM community and the
>>>> international organizations deployed in the field, build a coherent map.
>>>> Crowdsourcing the digitalization of aerial imagery or data imports,
>>>> this is only one step in building an exhaustive map that can support
>>>> humanitarian operations. To complete the map, the volunteers from abroad
>>>> need more interaction with the field team GIS specialists.  After mostly a
>>>> year contributing for the Ebola activation and with all the GIS specialists
>>>> in the field working for Ebola, we still see how it is difficult to go
>>>> further then Crowdsource remote mapping and as a Global humanitarian
>>>> community integrate the field data collection in a more coherent
>>>> information system,  to share with others.
>>>> Working on smaller projects like this one, this could be often an
>>>> opportunity to progress and find ways to better interact.
>>>> regard
>>>> Pierre
>>>>   ------------------------------
>>>>  *De :* Pete Masters <pedrito1414 at googlemail.com>
>>>> *À :* "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
>>>> *Envoyé le :* Vendredi 6 mars 2015 10h43
>>>> *Objet :* [HOT] Mayendit task
>>>> Hi all, I planned to write an email this afternoon to ask for your help
>>>> with the Mayendit task (http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/923). The MSF
>>>> team need the data fairly urgently.
>>>> However, when I just went to look, I saw it was already at 28%! This is
>>>> amazing....
>>>> So, instead I will just say, keep up the good work. The team needs the
>>>> data by mid next week, but I think that looks very likely to happen.
>>>> If anyone has time to do a bit of validation, that would also be super
>>>> cool.
>>>> (I try not to post to this list too much about Missing Maps tasks as
>>>> you are all already involved in so many worthy projects. This is an
>>>> exception because of the task's urgent nature...)
>>>> Thanks again!
>>>> Pete
>>>> --
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