[HOT] DRAFT- HOT Nepal Response Community Survey

john o'l ol.john.el at gmail.com
Thu May 21 00:11:20 UTC 2015


As an inexperienced OSM mapper, yet someone who believes that there is
merit in the HOT approach, I found that I was frustrated for much of the
time I tried to participate according to instructions and by following
pointers and tracking down relevant resources.  My participation during the
few days I spent on this track far exceeded the specific thresholds
mentioned earlier of “one session in Nepal and …less than 5 edits in OSM”
and “experienced in OSM say greater than 100 edits.”  For the record,
according to a list published a couple of weeks ago I did more than 30
changesets and 1800 edits over 6 days.  I’d wager that a substantial
proportion of them didn’t meet preferred standards for validation. I also
know that there were a few instances where I just bailed once I got error
messages regarding the operation of the editor window itself or after my
attempt to save a chunk of changes got thwarted somehow.



Anyway, keeping this short to maintain focus on the numbers being used to
classify and focus certain sets of questions… they seem low to me, but it
is possible that I’m exceptionally bull-headed and dense. And no worries,
you'll probably have an opportunity to hear more of my feedback once the
Nepal activation sprint transitions more completely into a marathon.


Cheers,

John

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Yes it would be an idea to classify people and send a different url for
> - 1 day edit
> - less then xxx edits
> - others
>
> We would also know how many answered in each of these groups while
> respecting anonymity.
>
> Pierre
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *De :* john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> *À :* Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>
> *Cc :* Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com>; "HOT at OSM (Humanitarian
> OpenStreetMap Team)" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 20 mai 2015 18h48
>
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] DRAFT- HOT Nepal Response Community Survey
>
> You should be able to get a list of HOT /OSM ids with the data attached.
> Now extract from this those who have only done one session in Nepal and
> have less than 5 edits in OSM.
>
> When you send out the questionnaire to this group you send them a link to
> the full version.
>
> For those who are experienced in OSM say greater than 100 edits send them
> a link which omits the training questions.  Etc.
>
> If you can find someone to code it it is technically possible that when
> you send the link you also send the email address embedded in the link.
>
> Hopefully that makes it a bit clearer.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20 May 2015 at 18:34, Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>
> John
>
> This will work only with the people that accept to provide their identity
> and osm nickname.
>
>
> Pierre
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *De :* john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> *À :* Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com>
> *Cc :* "HOT at OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team)" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
>
> *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 20 mai 2015 17h54
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] DRAFT- HOT Nepal Response Community Survey
>
> It appears my comments on email addresses were not understood clearly.
>
> If we do an extract on OSM and HOT we can identify people who have mapped
> in OSM before, those who have mapped on only one occasion in Nepal etc.  In
> other words if we only send the relevant questions to a group of email
> addresses who we know have never mapped before then we can tailor the
> questions specifically to them.  Or have two or three versions of the
> questionnaire one for each group we are interested in.  The other method is
> to pick up their email address, there are methods to do this by passing the
> information in the link to the questionnaire.  If you use that method then
> link the email address to the questionnaire you can then link it to other
> information from HOT and OSM.  However this method may run into privacy law
> considerations in various countries unless you ask permission.
>
> Asking an experienced mapper say one with a hundred plus edits in OSM what
> they think of the training is probably a waste of time, they probably
> didn't look at it.  However by asking them the question you have added to
> respondent burden.  If you know the answer or can deduce it then first its
> probably more accurate, people do not always answer truthfully, second the
> normal rule of surveys is take up the minimum time necessary to get the
> information you require.
>
> Can you get the person's country from their OSM profile?  etc.  Can we get
> their preferred language from their OSM profile?
>
> Another issue is if you are going to host the questionnaire on Hackpad or
> Dropbox then you may lose some respondents who will not agree to giving up
> their list of email contacts to dropbox should they elect to sign in using
> something like Google sign in.  Typically these may represent a group of
> users you might be interested in.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 19 May 2015 at 12:38, Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> HI Folks, A few of us have been working hard to create a HOT Nepal
> Response Community Survey. We have collected input from working groups and
> activation leads. With so many new contributors and deep engagement at all
> levels, we really heard your comments on the list and see the future
> opportunities.
>
> The final version is not ready yet, but we are close. Take a look and add
> some comments. Note: it is our goal to be as brief as possible to respect
> people's time.
>
> https://hackpad.com/HOT-Nepal-Response-Community-Survey-pOlKdatnSk2
>
> Tyler, Heather and the team are aiming to send this far and wide by May
> 21st.
>
>
> (Note: this is the first time we have ever done a formal HOT community
> survey. We do want to improve and hope that your input once the survey will
> help you grow HOT. Stay tuned for when it is live.)
>
> Also, if you want to be part of the data analytics (post survey team),
> please let us know
>
> Thanks!
>
> Heather on behalf of the team
>
>
> Heather Leson
> heatherleson at gmail.com
> Twitter: HeatherLeson
> Blog: textontechs.com
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