[HOT] step by step recipe for iD bug reporting

john o'l ol.john.el at gmail.com
Sun May 24 03:27:52 UTC 2015

I believe Clifford's suggested approach would address some of the issues
brought up by Charlotte and Suzan.  I'd recommend going further and for the
next activation approaching this scale, have a small group of experienced
HOT volunteers whose primary task is to set up and actively participate in
a well publicized beginner's chat -- answering questions, clarifying
instructions, and steering folks to resources.
Cheers,  John

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Clifford Snow <clifford at snowandsnow.us>

> On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Charlotte Wolter <techlady at techlady.com>
> wrote:
>>       Right. It should be clarified.
>>          "Problem with iD or JSOM"
>>         As for what else is needed, that is up to those who know how to
>> fix either. Maybe the button above should lead to two choices: "iD" or
>> "JOSM," at which point the appropriate questionnaire appears.
>>         Does JOSM include a way to report issues? To my knowledge, iD
>> does not. Clearly they need to be separate.
> JOSM bugs are reported on the josm.openstreetmap.de website. One the main
> JOSM page are the instructions:
> Found a bug? | Have an idea? | Make a suggestion?
> <http://josm.openstreetmap.de/#Bugs>
>    - Please report any bug found: Create a new ticket
>       <http://josm.openstreetmap.de/newticket> using the Report Bug
>       <http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/ReportBug> entry in
>       the main menu Help
>       <http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Menu/Help>. Alternatively,
>       the same function is available under About
>       <http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/About> and Show
>       status report
>       <http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/ShowStatusReport>.
>       - Discuss ideas and suggestions also in the bug tracker
>       <http://josm.openstreetmap.de/newticket>, on the ​josm-dev
>       <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev> mailing list,
>       or on the ​#josm IRC channel.
> JOSM is sold as an advanced editor which might give the impress that
> someone "steps up" from iD to JSOM. From what I've seen on HOT, for some
> tasks it is the preferred editor which means that new mappers are using
> JOSM. If they come from an open source, ie linux, background I don't see
> any real roadblocks to creating bug reports. But for the vast majority it
> is somewhat intimidating. One solution is to report the bug on the Tasking
> Manager for the task owner to verify. If it is a bug, the task owner
> reports the bug on the josm website. That allows the owner to triage the
> reports to make sure that they weed out user/training issues.
> I'm inclined to suggest modifying the TM interface to include these
> issues. What does everyone else think?
> Clifford
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