[HOT] Idle thought does where we map impact where AID is given?

Martin Noblecourt m_noblecourt at cartong.org
Mon Jun 20 13:24:18 UTC 2016

Hi John,

I'm not sure I understand fully your point but I can confirm you that 
aid organizations don't plan their operations based on the mere 
availability of maps (just as all of them don't plan based on the mere 
road accessibility, although this is a more important constraint...): 
maps can be super useful for them to plan and implement their activities 
but are not a requirement: as we all know many disaster responses NGO 
haven't wait for OSM to exist to respond in these areas... Second point, 
the fact that OSM data exists in a country doesn't mean all aid 
organizations in the field have access to a map - far from that in fact...

So while I completely agree with the general objective of mapping large 
areas with basic data, let's not underestimate the impact of detailed 
mapping in areas where aid organizations and/or local governments have 
the capacity to use the data to build GIS products and actually impact 
their operations (epidemio, logistics, disaster risk reduction, etc.). 
The organizations requesting projects in the TM are precisely the one 
that are aware of the potential of OSM and that have the capacity to use 
the data in the field.

Thanks for your efforts & best regards.


On 20/06/2016 14:00, hot-request at openstreetmap.org wrote:
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> From: john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [HOT] Idle thought does where we map impact where AID is
> 	given?
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> According to the Economist Jun3 10th 2016 edition there are 27 different
> donors involved in health care in Mozambique alone.
> Currently I estimate 10% of rural Africa has been mapped so do we have
> multiple agencies operating where OSM maps are available rather than where
> the need is greatest?
> If there is an economic impact of just having a map available, and I
> suspect there is should a least some HOT mapping be just highway and
> landuse=residential rather than every building within a very small area?
> I accept that some organisations run maperthons with low priority and much
> of their mapping is done with these resources but when validating I come
> across the same names time and time again, it's much more restful to
> validate them than the new mappers, but these mappers map a lot more
> objects than a maperthon.
> As I said earlier this is pure idle thought that would need some research
> to see if there is an element of truth in it or even if it can be addressed.
> Cheerio John
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