[HOT] Moving the focus to JOSM in mapathons

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Sat May 14 20:55:13 UTC 2016 

Hi John,

Did you do F12 and enable Remote Control in the setttings?

Jo

2016-05-14 22:52 GMT+02:00 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>:

> Which browser did you use?  The browser works fine, JOSM works fine it
> just when you select the tile in the browser it doesn't get passed through
> to JOSM.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 14 May 2016 at 16:10, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I did create such sticks several months ago and I didn't have that issue.
>> It must be network/firewall related.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> 2016-05-14 21:28 GMT+02:00 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I picked up PortableApps from the link and installed it with portable
>>> Firefox and Jportable.  JOSM runs fine but the link from the HOT tiles
>>> gives "JOSM remote control did not respond. Do you have JOSM running and
>>> configured to be controlled remotely?"
>>>
>>> I think until we get that resolved the Linux bootable USB stick looks
>>> favourite.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> On 14 May 2016 at 14:55, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was bitten by an infected download from sourceforge when I downloaded
>>>> FileZilla a few months ago. It came with an obnoxious "backup" solution
>>>> that does anything but backup.
>>>>
>>>> PortableApps seems to be hosted on their own site though:
>>>> http://portableapps.com/download
>>>>
>>>> I didn't have any problems with it and I searched a bit on Google and
>>>> don't see reports of other people having issues.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, my preference OS wise, is Linux. The disadvantage of providing
>>>> JOSM on a stick, either as PortableApps or as a bootable Linux, is that
>>>> people don't take it home that way, which makes it less likely they'll
>>>> continue mapping after the Mapathon. As such, kind of defeating the purpose.
>>>>
>>>> The biggest advantage is that everybody is quickly up to speed during
>>>> the Mapathon, of course.
>>>>
>>>> I guess the best "compromise" is somebody who goes through the room
>>>> during the Mapatahon, who proposes to install and set up JOSM on their own
>>>> computers. So they don't have to take the hurdle of figuring it out for
>>>> themselves. Not that it's all that hard, but it's time consuming if it
>>>> needs to be done on many computers with varying OSes.
>>>>
>>>> Polyglot
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-05-14 20:32 GMT+02:00 Jo <winfixit at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Enock,
>>>>>
>>>>> You are right. Twitch is a bit annoying with all their publicity for
>>>>> (mostly) wargames. I should do the extra step of exporting the better ones
>>>>> to Youtube.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is one advantage to Twitch. It works together with OBS (Open
>>>>> Broadcast Software). All I need to do is activate that and streaming is
>>>>> automatic, which means that I'm doing it more often, than I would be, if I
>>>>> had to record, then encode, then upload.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jo
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-05-14 19:06 GMT+02:00 Enock Seth Nyamador <kwadzo459 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the videos. Why Twitch? Will be very nice and great on the
>>>>>> side of some of us if you can use Vimeo or YouTube making easier to
>>>>>> download.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you say?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Enock
>>>>>> UMaT, Tarkwa
>>>>>> enockseth.github.io
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here you can find instructions for install portabableApps on a USB
>>>>>>> stick:
>>>>>>> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then it's not necessary to reboot your computer into Linux. Nor is
>>>>>>> it necessary to have administrator rights to run Java applications.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding the use of JOSM for Mapathons. I've been trying to promote
>>>>>>> that idea for a while now. If you want to learn how to configure JOSM and
>>>>>>> how to use it to add buildings:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Setting up JOSM:
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35769115
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35256378
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35258635
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35261429
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35262223
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mapping rectangular buildings:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mapping a halter shaped building:
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/34047877
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Advanced mapping of building + complex roundabout:
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33412245
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Validation:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Validation of a task focused on mapping buildings:
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33926879
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33978956
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Improving accuracy of existing buildings:
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/32524089
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Use of JOSM's validator:
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33135797
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mass correction of crossing ways reported by JOSM's validator:
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/33197285
>>>>>>> + check if all is well with todo plugin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fixing duplicate buildings (many of them):
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/35983874
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pasting tags on a changeset (from clipboard):
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/41511097
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Use of improve way accuracy tool (w) on a road in Uganda:
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/43661664
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mapping an archeological site in Kyrghyzstan using Mapillary
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45658771
>>>>>>> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/v/45661736
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope this helps. Feel free to use these videos for learning and
>>>>>>> teaching purposes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Polyglot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-05-14 18:04 GMT+02:00 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From sardiniaopendata at gmail.com on April 5th 2106
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So it looks doable with the right image on the USB stick.  John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>>> Dear HOT Team members
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> my name is Claudia and I 'm writing on the behave on an italian
>>>>>>>> association called SardiniaOpenData. Since 2013  we are involved in free
>>>>>>>> training and mapping using OSM , related to our urban context and to the
>>>>>>>> humantarian world as I was deployed in Chad with you guys ( thanks again
>>>>>>>> for the opportunity ) .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm writing to you because we finally manage to have a small
>>>>>>>> finanincig to organise a 3 modules course, to trainin citizens to map first
>>>>>>>> using OSM, secondly how to use  WheelMap   training the paraplegic
>>>>>>>> associationinCagliari . The second module will be about the Tasking Manager
>>>>>>>> and how to contribute to the remote mapping.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have planned 2 outside  mapping parties  to collect data and 3
>>>>>>>> indoor lessons to teach them how does the Tasking works. The
>>>>>>>> period will be May 2016 . For the first year we manage to have free
>>>>>>>> materials to offer to ours attendants, expecially a personal  usb card with
>>>>>>>> a free distribution of Linux ( I think Ubuntu 14.04 lts ) with all the
>>>>>>>> tools and programs already installed, JOSM,website bookmarks concerning all
>>>>>>>> the OSM world, WkiOSM, LearnOSM, etc..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We wanted to let you know about our training and to share our
>>>>>>>> enthusiasm . There will be some blog posts out soon , both in  english and
>>>>>>>> italian.  If you will like to share it, all the team will be really happy.
>>>>>>>> If thereis  any specific task you'd like us to help , just let us
>>>>>>>> know. As I did with the last training , I will spend with great pleasure
>>>>>>>>  15 minutes talking about the HOT Team and your amazing work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have a great day and thaks again !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *The most dangerous thing to do is to stand still.“ William
>>>>>>>> Burroughs *
>>>>>>>> We keep on moving !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Claudia
>>>>>>>> Sardinia Open Data
>>>>>>>> twitter: @sard_opendata"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 14 May 2016 at 12:00, Enock Seth Nyamador <kwadzo459 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux
>>>>>>>>> software, but I hear it works for a large % of people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Works in some cases provided java (JRE/JDK) is installed in the
>>>>>>>>> live boot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since most people come along with their own laptops best solution
>>>>>>>>> is  USB sticks with JRE and JOSM for various Operating Systems. Very
>>>>>>>>> practical. Learnt this from Severin Menard. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Enock
>>>>>>>>> UMaT, Tarkwa
>>>>>>>>> enockseth.github.io
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Blake Girardot <
>>>>>>>>> bgirardot at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What about the USB sticks? Those should be on hand so you can boot
>>>>>>>>>> anyone into a Linux environment with the right java and latest
>>>>>>>>>> josm if
>>>>>>>>>> they were curious about josm but did not come expecting to try it
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> something?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i had no luck booting my laptop into linux to use linux software,
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> I hear it works for a large % of people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This would also solve the "we are in a computer lab and can not
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> permission to install java or josm on the machiens" issue as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am sure there is an image somewhere and someone could try and
>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>> just a rough outline of the steps for our more tech savy people
>>>>>>>>>> to try
>>>>>>>>>> and replicate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>> blake
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 3:39 PM, john whelan <
>>>>>>>>>> jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > I think if we suggest they download Java before arriving,
>>>>>>>>>> josm-tested.jar
>>>>>>>>>> > can be copied for a USB stick or local server ie laptop.  I
>>>>>>>>>> think that would
>>>>>>>>>> > save bandwidth and trying to download multiple copies at the
>>>>>>>>>> same time would
>>>>>>>>>> > mean delays.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Hopefully it works out.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks John
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On 14 May 2016 at 07:11, Pete Masters <
>>>>>>>>>> pedrito1414 at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi all, over the past few weeks, some of the validation chat
>>>>>>>>>> has focused
>>>>>>>>>> >> on tools (iD / JOSM, generally). We made a decision at this
>>>>>>>>>> month's London
>>>>>>>>>> >> Missing Maps mapathon to try and put more of a focus on using
>>>>>>>>>> JOSM, rather
>>>>>>>>>> >> than iD. We're not sure how it went yet, but will continue to
>>>>>>>>>> try and
>>>>>>>>>> >> develop this in future months.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> I have written a quick OSM diary on it, here:
>>>>>>>>>> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pedrito1414/diary/38604 If
>>>>>>>>>> you have
>>>>>>>>>> >> comments, please feel free to leave them there. I am also
>>>>>>>>>> going to share it
>>>>>>>>>> >> with new mappers who were involved as they are generally not
>>>>>>>>>> on this list
>>>>>>>>>> >> and their thoughts could be interesting...
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Pete
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>>>>> >> Pete Masters
>>>>>>>>>> >> Missing Maps Project Coordinator
>>>>>>>>>> >> +44 7921 781 518
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> missingmaps.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> @pedrito1414
>>>>>>>>>> >> @theMissingMaps
>>>>>>>>>> >> facebook.com/MissingMapsProject
>>>>>>>>>> >>
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