[HOT] Map4Haiti

Mikel Maron mikel.maron at gmail.com
Sat Oct 15 13:28:07 UTC 2016


 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important;  padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; }  Agree with you John. Working with local mapper groups of course is the best. There are many French speaking HOT members and volunteers, including in Haiti.
But that's a seperate topic from running an additional unnecessary tasking manager.

Mikel

On Saturday, October 15, 2016, 9:08 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

Which begs the question why should HOT decide the priorities?

I note that we don't see many projects from local groups especially in the high priority list and in this case Haiti the local language is French which means it is more difficult for the local needs to be understood by none francophone outsiders.

There are problems with the functioning of the government of Haiti but there are functioning OSM locals but the best way to strengthen them is to work with them.

Cheerio John

On 15 October 2016 at 08:03, Mikel Maron <mikel.maron at gmail.com> wrote:

Having two tasking managers for the same response area is of course going to create conflicts. There's no need at all to create jobs for Haiti on another tasking manager. Simply, communicate the needs for mapping, including AOI, need, etc, to the HOT activation team and it will be prioritized and set up.

Mikel

On Saturday, October 15, 2016, 4:51 AM, Severin Menard <severin.menard at gmail.com> wrote:

 
Hi,

New update about ourcontribution to the OSM Map4Haiti mapping. Job#45 is almost done now and we will start mapping the rural areaswithin the hills of département of Grande-Anse, over the communes ofAbricots, Dame-Marie, Chambellan, Moron, Anse d'Hainault and GrandeAnse, located in the most affected areas by Hurricane Matthew (UNOSATimpact zone 1, with winds over 120 km/h) with job#64, continuing our systematic, consolidated effort over thehills (called mornes in Haiti).

We hold an agileSOTM today here at Université Alassane Ouattara and will have a teamof crisis mapping during the whole day to show students and peoplewhat it is. No newcomer will be invited to map on Haiti from Bouakébut invited to become a local mapper, raise his skills and join laterwhen experienced enough. 

I hope this messageis read by the HOT US coordination team, especially Dale Kunce: 

October 8 6:30 PM UTCI communicated about job #39about pre-disaster mapping over Jeremie. On October 12, whenour mapping is almost done on Central Jeremie, we figure out peopleare mapping on the area, due to a HOTUS job #2228 created by Dale Kunce. We stopped and quicklydetected all the mistakes done by very recent mappers. 

October 12 11:40 AMUTC I communicated on the hot list including regarding job#45 about mapping Jeremie’s hinterland. Later this day, HOTUS job #2224 covering an area slightly smaller inside the one Imade was created by Dale Kunce... As if there was no other places to bemapped in Haiti... 

So far, we created 7jobs over Haiti, I communicated about them and they are all onthe http://taches. francophonelibre.org frontpage, so it is not a big deal justto check them.

@Dale I think HOT UScreated a curriculum to raise skills to become Crisis activators, Iwould advise you to read it one day when you have a bit of time. If ever it does not mention to read andcommunicate in the hot list during an activation, I would suggest toadd it into the documentation. As an incorporated company, HOT US may have its own internaltools to organize its mapping, but the minimum is to communicate abit on the hot list with the OSM community, who is the holder of thislist (as everything with @openstreetmap.org). 
If you now create anew job covering job#45, I may try next time to create a job in the middle of thewater, just to see if you jump on it. 



Sincerely,



Severin
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