[HOT] Addresses in Africa

[john whelan]

To take it a step or two further.  You can search for lat and long in
Nomination provided you just enter the numbers.  So lat='45.472891'
lon='-75.4891002' doesn't work but 45.472891, -75.4891002 does.  Ideally
you'd want to zoom in on the location as well.

Encode this address in a bar code and life gets interesting.  With a
smartphone you can scan the bar code and display the location on a map
without needing an internet connection.  It would need a bit of glue to do
this. Give the delivery person an ordered list of letters / packages to
deliver then as you deliver one you scan in the next bar code and use off
line routing to find the way to the next address.

Cheerio John

On 10 September 2016 at 11:34, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Comment you can't take the lat and long from the .osm file and paste it in
> nomination to find the location.  Pity that sounds too much like user
> friendliness.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 10 September 2016 at 11:31, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The very crude way is to pull in the poi into JOSM then save the .osm
>> file and bring it up in something like notepad++.
>>
>> lat='45.472891' lon='-75.4891002'
>>
>> Do we need all the digits for a a reasonable amount of accuracy?
>>
>> It certainly looks like a fairly simple JOSM plug in could be built that
>> could display or drop something into a cut and paste style window.
>>
>> I think I'd prefer some sort of check digit though to catch
>> transpositions.
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> On 10 September 2016 at 10:57, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes but it uses Google and Google often doesn't cover the parts of the
>>> world we're interested in.  Besides which it locks you in by using words.
>>> It also requires lots of java script and appears to need an online
>>> connection to get the address.  Plus it takes 20-30 seconds to generate
>>> one.  People generally get impatient with web sites after having to wait
>>> two seconds.
>>>
>>> I wonder if we can directly support latitude and longitude better.  A
>>> JOSM plugin perhaps?  OSMAND support on poi?  A cross hatch pointer on the
>>> web page tiles?
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> On 10 September 2016 at 09:21, Alessandro Fanna <rospus at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all, just to put some more entropy in the discussion I add this nice
>>>> and open reverse geocode addressing:
>>>> http://xaddress.org/
>>>>
>>>> Hope not getting too much off topic.
>>>>
>>>> Alessandro Fanna
>>>>
>>>> Il 10/set/2016 12:46, "Pete Masters" <pedrito1414 at googlemail.com> ha
>>>> scritto:
>>>> >
>>>> > This article made me think of this thread.... http://www.domain.c
>>>> om.au/news/letter-with-map-instead-of-address-still-gets-del
>>>> ivered-in-iceland-20160905-gr90u1/
>>>> >
>>>> > Pete
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Rory McCann <rory at technomancy.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 31/08/16 13:37, john whelan wrote:
>>>> >> > ​There has been considerable talk about addressing schemes for
>>>> areas
>>>> >> > that do not have street names etc.  Three words etc.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Y'know you don't have to go as far as Africa to find countries with
>>>> >> address "systems" like that. I give you: Ireland. In rural areas
>>>> (many)
>>>> >> streets have no names, and many houses have no numbers, using house
>>>> >> names instead. Lowest level administrative areas (townlands) are
>>>> often
>>>> >> used (but not always accurately) to construct an address.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> About 30% of rural addresses are non-unique. i.e. The postman has to
>>>> >> know things from the surname on the letter.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> A new postcode system has been released recently, which gives every
>>>> >> letter box a unique & random code. But it'll be years before that's
>>>> used
>>>> >> a lot.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Alas, Ireland's drink monoculture means Ivan's beer address system
>>>> >> probably wouldn't work. :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Read more:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>  * https://www.autoaddress.ie/products/irish-addressing
>>>> >>  *
>>>> >> http://www.dataireland.ie/News/Pages/Tricky-Irish-Addresses-
>>>> Why-do-Irish-addresses-pose-so-many-problems
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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