[HOT] Addresses in Africa

john whelan jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 10 20:11:33 UTC 2016


And to take it a step further OSMand will allow searches by    latitude and
longitude etc but really it needs a decent set of documentation or perhaps
a plugin to make it work smoothly.

Cheerio John

On 10 Sep 2016 3:48 pm, "john whelan" <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> To take it a step or two further.  You can search for lat and long in
> Nomination provided you just enter the numbers.  So lat='45.472891'
> lon='-75.4891002' doesn't work but 45.472891, -75.4891002 does.  Ideally
> you'd want to zoom in on the location as well.
>
> Encode this address in a bar code and life gets interesting.  With a
> smartphone you can scan the bar code and display the location on a map
> without needing an internet connection.  It would need a bit of glue to do
> this. Give the delivery person an ordered list of letters / packages to
> deliver then as you deliver one you scan in the next bar code and use off
> line routing to find the way to the next address.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 10 September 2016 at 11:34, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Comment you can't take the lat and long from the .osm file and paste it
>> in nomination to find the location.  Pity that sounds too much like user
>> friendliness.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 10 September 2016 at 11:31, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The very crude way is to pull in the poi into JOSM then save the .osm
>>> file and bring it up in something like notepad++.
>>>
>>> lat='45.472891' lon='-75.4891002'
>>>
>>> Do we need all the digits for a a reasonable amount of accuracy?
>>>
>>> It certainly looks like a fairly simple JOSM plug in could be built that
>>> could display or drop something into a cut and paste style window.
>>>
>>> I think I'd prefer some sort of check digit though to catch
>>> transpositions.
>>>
>>> Thanks John
>>>
>>> On 10 September 2016 at 10:57, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes but it uses Google and Google often doesn't cover the parts of the
>>>> world we're interested in.  Besides which it locks you in by using words.
>>>> It also requires lots of java script and appears to need an online
>>>> connection to get the address.  Plus it takes 20-30 seconds to generate
>>>> one.  People generally get impatient with web sites after having to wait
>>>> two seconds.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if we can directly support latitude and longitude better.  A
>>>> JOSM plugin perhaps?  OSMAND support on poi?  A cross hatch pointer on the
>>>> web page tiles?
>>>>
>>>> Cheerio John
>>>>
>>>> On 10 September 2016 at 09:21, Alessandro Fanna <rospus at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, just to put some more entropy in the discussion I add this
>>>>> nice and open reverse geocode addressing:
>>>>> http://xaddress.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope not getting too much off topic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alessandro Fanna
>>>>>
>>>>> Il 10/set/2016 12:46, "Pete Masters" <pedrito1414 at googlemail.com> ha
>>>>> scritto:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This article made me think of this thread.... http://www.domain.c
>>>>> om.au/news/letter-with-map-instead-of-address-still-gets-del
>>>>> ivered-in-iceland-20160905-gr90u1/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Pete
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Rory McCann <rory at technomancy.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 31/08/16 13:37, john whelan wrote:
>>>>> >> > ‚ÄčThere has been considerable talk about addressing schemes for
>>>>> areas
>>>>> >> > that do not have street names etc.  Three words etc.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Y'know you don't have to go as far as Africa to find countries with
>>>>> >> address "systems" like that. I give you: Ireland. In rural areas
>>>>> (many)
>>>>> >> streets have no names, and many houses have no numbers, using house
>>>>> >> names instead. Lowest level administrative areas (townlands) are
>>>>> often
>>>>> >> used (but not always accurately) to construct an address.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> About 30% of rural addresses are non-unique. i.e. The postman has to
>>>>> >> know things from the surname on the letter.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> A new postcode system has been released recently, which gives every
>>>>> >> letter box a unique & random code. But it'll be years before that's
>>>>> used
>>>>> >> a lot.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Alas, Ireland's drink monoculture means Ivan's beer address system
>>>>> >> probably wouldn't work. :)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Read more:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>  * https://www.autoaddress.ie/products/irish-addressing
>>>>> >>  *
>>>>> >> http://www.dataireland.ie/News/Pages/Tricky-Irish-Addresses-
>>>>> Why-do-Irish-addresses-pose-so-many-problems
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Pete Masters
>>>>> > Missing Maps Project Coordinator
>>>>> > +44 7921 781 518
>>>>> >
>>>>> > missingmaps.org
>>>>> >
>>>>> > @pedrito1414
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