[HOT] Addresses in Africa

john whelan jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 10 21:08:53 UTC 2016


And if you enter the lat and long into Nomination it will not only give you
the location on the map but on a good day will display the civic address as
well.

Best of both worlds.

Cheerio John

On 10 Sep 2016 4:11 pm, "john whelan" <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> And to take it a step further OSMand will allow searches by    latitude
> and longitude etc but really it needs a decent set of documentation or
> perhaps a plugin to make it work smoothly.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 10 Sep 2016 3:48 pm, "john whelan" <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To take it a step or two further.  You can search for lat and long in
>> Nomination provided you just enter the numbers.  So lat='45.472891'
>> lon='-75.4891002' doesn't work but 45.472891, -75.4891002 does.  Ideally
>> you'd want to zoom in on the location as well.
>>
>> Encode this address in a bar code and life gets interesting.  With a
>> smartphone you can scan the bar code and display the location on a map
>> without needing an internet connection.  It would need a bit of glue to do
>> this. Give the delivery person an ordered list of letters / packages to
>> deliver then as you deliver one you scan in the next bar code and use off
>> line routing to find the way to the next address.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 10 September 2016 at 11:34, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Comment you can't take the lat and long from the .osm file and paste it
>>> in nomination to find the location.  Pity that sounds too much like user
>>> friendliness.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> On 10 September 2016 at 11:31, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The very crude way is to pull in the poi into JOSM then save the .osm
>>>> file and bring it up in something like notepad++.
>>>>
>>>> lat='45.472891' lon='-75.4891002'
>>>>
>>>> Do we need all the digits for a a reasonable amount of accuracy?
>>>>
>>>> It certainly looks like a fairly simple JOSM plug in could be built
>>>> that could display or drop something into a cut and paste style window.
>>>>
>>>> I think I'd prefer some sort of check digit though to catch
>>>> transpositions.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks John
>>>>
>>>> On 10 September 2016 at 10:57, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes but it uses Google and Google often doesn't cover the parts of the
>>>>> world we're interested in.  Besides which it locks you in by using words.
>>>>> It also requires lots of java script and appears to need an online
>>>>> connection to get the address.  Plus it takes 20-30 seconds to generate
>>>>> one.  People generally get impatient with web sites after having to wait
>>>>> two seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if we can directly support latitude and longitude better.  A
>>>>> JOSM plugin perhaps?  OSMAND support on poi?  A cross hatch pointer on the
>>>>> web page tiles?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheerio John
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10 September 2016 at 09:21, Alessandro Fanna <rospus at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, just to put some more entropy in the discussion I add this
>>>>>> nice and open reverse geocode addressing:
>>>>>> http://xaddress.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope not getting too much off topic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alessandro Fanna
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Il 10/set/2016 12:46, "Pete Masters" <pedrito1414 at googlemail.com> ha
>>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > This article made me think of this thread.... http://www.domain.c
>>>>>> om.au/news/letter-with-map-instead-of-address-still-gets-del
>>>>>> ivered-in-iceland-20160905-gr90u1/
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Pete
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Rory McCann <rory at technomancy.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 31/08/16 13:37, john whelan wrote:
>>>>>> >> > ‚ÄčThere has been considerable talk about addressing schemes for
>>>>>> areas
>>>>>> >> > that do not have street names etc.  Three words etc.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Y'know you don't have to go as far as Africa to find countries with
>>>>>> >> address "systems" like that. I give you: Ireland. In rural areas
>>>>>> (many)
>>>>>> >> streets have no names, and many houses have no numbers, using house
>>>>>> >> names instead. Lowest level administrative areas (townlands) are
>>>>>> often
>>>>>> >> used (but not always accurately) to construct an address.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> About 30% of rural addresses are non-unique. i.e. The postman has
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> >> know things from the surname on the letter.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> A new postcode system has been released recently, which gives every
>>>>>> >> letter box a unique & random code. But it'll be years before
>>>>>> that's used
>>>>>> >> a lot.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Alas, Ireland's drink monoculture means Ivan's beer address system
>>>>>> >> probably wouldn't work. :)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Read more:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>  * https://www.autoaddress.ie/products/irish-addressing
>>>>>> >>  *
>>>>>> >> http://www.dataireland.ie/News/Pages/Tricky-Irish-Addresses-
>>>>>> Why-do-Irish-addresses-pose-so-many-problems
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Pete Masters
>>>>>> > Missing Maps Project Coordinator
>>>>>> > +44 7921 781 518
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > missingmaps.org
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > @pedrito1414
>>>>>> > @theMissingMaps
>>>>>> > facebook.com/MissingMapsProject
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