[HOT] Mapping buildings something to think about

Dale Kunce dale.kunce at gmail.com
Tue Apr 11 05:23:03 UTC 2017

All this is a reminder to everyone to keep the language and intent of
statements in a respectful manner. The iD developers and mainteners work
very hard to manage the project and do a very good job. I know some of you
have frustrations but please be respectful of others time and efforts as


On Apr 11, 2017 11:43 AM, "Jo" <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm sorry for having used a four letter word to express how deeply I'm
> disappointed that developing a tool to create a rectangle and marking it
> building=yes in one go with just 3 mouse clicks takes this long.
> This is causing other people to lose countless hours of their precious
> time on validating tasks and burning out, like I did.
> All the more power to you John for still hanging in there!
> Polyglot
> 2017-04-11 0:31 GMT+02:00 Jo <winfixit at gmail.com>:
>> Hi John,
>> I feel your pain. While demoing JOSM to a potential GSoC candidate I
>> downloaded a building block in Mozambique. Almost all the buildings were
>> tagged area=yes! This is a problem with the iD editor that we reported 18
>> months ago and it's up to JOSM validators to resolve them. Life is just too
>> short. It's beyond belief that the iD developers cannot get their shit
>> straight, even afer all this time.
>> Anyway, for our National Mapathon I had created the following (since we
>> had Windows computers with Java installed available):
>> https://github.com/osmbe/JOSMforMapathons
>> You can download it as a zip from github.
>> Then run the josm_tested.cmd
>> <https://github.com/osmbe/JOSMforMapathons/blob/master/josm_tested.cmd>.
>> This will call the powershell script, which downloads JOSM and starts it
>> with settings for remote control enabled. Somehow it's still necessary to
>> download the plugins, but the useful ones are already selected.
>> I hope this helps to organise more mapathons were users are taught to map
>> with JOSM right from the start. It takes a bit longer to get them going,
>> but the users are so much more productive and validators will come in
>> hordes to thank you :-)
>> Polyglot
>> 2017-04-10 23:50 GMT+02:00 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>:
>>> I've been looking at one section of Africa and tagging untagged ways and
>>> area=yes ways.  It's a very small % of the entire continent.
>>> So far in the last couple of days I've tagged nearly 800 buildings and I
>>> have another 350 untagged ways to go through.
>>> Looking at the mappers and the profiles many of these seem to be from a
>>> number of recent building only projects.  Now these should be some of the
>>> simplest things to map.
>>> Missing 1,000 buildings in this area alone by not tagging them to me is
>>> significant.  It might not be to others.
>>> My estimate is of the buildings that are mapped 30% are not square or
>>> the building image and the mapping are different in size.  This is a
>>> conservative estimate.
>>> To save my fingers and wading through the to_do list could a bit more
>>> effort be made on the JOSM building_tool plugin front.  Jo / Polygot has a
>>> recipe for running it from a USB stick.  It is simple to use and very
>>> difficult to misstag.
>>> You get more buildings out of the mappers and best of all you don't get
>>> 45 tiles on one project marked done as I've seen by a mapper who had mapped
>>> 186 buildings but managed not to tag them.
>>> This means the project data isn't reliable and in my experience end
>>> users like reliability. I'm not sure why, my programmers always thought
>>> that the speed the programs ran at was more important.
>>> Cheerio John
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