[HOT] sporadic validation report

Russell Deffner russell.deffner at hotosm.org
Wed Dec 13 18:11:24 UTC 2017



I hope you know that HOT appreciates all you do; personally I don’t disagree with leaving communication channels that are more frustration than anything else.  My point being, that message was against the Code of Conduct for all community members participating in HOT related tools and platforms, including this public list.  However, retaliating against HOT the organization because of one ‘random’ person’s email, I don’t agree with.  Everyone should consider that they are communicating with other human beings and when IRL does that kind of communication work to get the results you’re after?  


If there is anything I can do to moderate and send people to the correct means to ‘air their grievance’ you are welcome to contact me directly,



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From: Bryan Housel [mailto:bryan at 7thposition.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:57 AM
To: Russell Deffner
Cc: Ralf Stephan; osm-hot
Subject: Re: [HOT] sporadic validation report


Russ I *am* on this mailing list.  But good news for all of you - I’m unsubscribing. 

I don’t prioritize features for people or organizations who hate me.


Thanks though,





On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Russell Deffner <russell.deffner at hotosm.org> wrote:


Hi Ralf,


I hope it doesn’t need much explaining, but that message doesn’t belong on the HOT mailing list for 2 reasons.  1) The iD developers are not necessarily on the HOT mailing list (this list is for discussing things related to the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)  <https://hotosm.org/> https://hotosm.org).  2) The message is in conflict with our Code of Conduct  <https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct#fullversion> https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct#fullversion


It would be unfortunate if we need to so quickly put the new community CoC into practice, but this message would be a good example for when to put our foot down.


Please take a break and think before corresponding with us,



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From: Ralf Stephan [ <mailto:gtrwst9 at gmail.com> mailto:gtrwst9 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:45 AM
To:  <mailto:hot at openstreetmap.org> hot at openstreetmap.org
Subject: [HOT] sporadic validation report



just now 5 out of 5 people that registered within the last 24 hours and worked on task #3939 did not square their buildings. I hate you, iD devs.

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