[HOT] landuse=residential and routing

Mon Jul 31 20:28:09 UTC 2017

I am using yahoo as a provider. Is the situation the same with all people using yahoo email adresses?

Pierre 

      De : john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
 À : AYTOUN RALPH <ralph.aytoun at ntlworld.com> 
Cc : "hot at openstreetmap.org" <hot at openstreetmap.org>
 Envoyé le : lundi 31 juillet 2017 16h25
 Objet : Re: [HOT] landuse=residential and routing

Both this message and the one from Pierre have been marked as spam because they do not pass the correct authentication by gmail, I suspect their email providers have not configured their email servers correctly. 

I would suggest they both switch to a different email provider.  Microsoft offers outlook besides google if you use Thunderbird that can pick up mail from different sources and consolidate it and send email through one particular provider.

Google handles about thirty percent of the world's email traffic these days so if your emails do not get through to google users then there is a problem.

The other possibility is talk to your email providers and get them to sort out their authentication.

To read Pierre's and Ralph's comments which I think are useful, gmail users can go to their spam folder.

Cheerio John

On 31 July 2017 at 14:45, <ralph.aytoun at ntlworld.com> wrote:

Hi Marco, The correct drawing of roads should be through the village and not stopping on the residential boundary. In fact there should not be a node connecting road and boundary at all. In the example you showed there is a road running to the south and east bypassing the village. As there is no indication of any clear road through the village itself leads me to believe that those ways leading off the bypass are more likely to be paths that will weave between the buildings and should not be shown as possible vehicle routes. Hope this helps Ralph Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: hot-request at openstreetmap.org
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Re: Highway Tag Africa wiki (Vao Matua)   2. landuse=residential and routing problems (mbranco)  ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ---------- Message: 1Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 07:59:53 -0700From: Vao Matua <vaomatua at gmail.com>To: "Jens Mueller (Historical Research Services)" <hrs at hist.de>Cc: HOT Openstreetmap <hot at openstreetmap.org>Subject: Re: [HOT] Highway Tag Africa wikiMessage-ID:                <CABvwQawh64NYNdE3ZNgfPGeuB9- c==axu8co0vQBiDFCicerYQ at mail.gmail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Ukundji Thank you for you comments, yes Ethiopia needs to have an OSM restart.For the last 10 months I was living in SNNPR and was not able to meet asingle OSM contributor.The infrastructure, unfortunately, makes OSM contributions and even usevery difficult.Ethiopians would be very interested in getting OSMAnd on their phones,however, it appears to be a restricted app. In terms of paths to Ethiopian villages it is indeed the case that theprimary or only transportation route to a population may only be by foot ordonkey traffic on a path.I think the perception that a path is not important is quite common and isnot true.  Important or significant paths need to be mapped for commerce,food safety, and potential relief efforts, not only in Ethiopia but inother parts of Africa and places throughout the world. The discussion about importance<http://wiki.openstreetmap. org/wiki/Proposed_Features/ Importance> doesn'tseem to have moved forward but could have some value. At SOTM Africa earlier this month there was quite a bit of discussion onhighway tags, including paths. Based on that discussion I have updatedthe AfricaHighway Tagging guide<http://wiki.openstreetmap. org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa> to help clarifythat a road has not only a construction class as well as an economic orsocial function. Regards Emmor(Palolo <http://hdyc.neis-one.org/? Palolo>) On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Jens Mueller (Historical ResearchServices) <hrs at hist.de> wrote: > Hi!> > I hope that you do not mind if I “jump into” your interesting and very> important discussion.> > I have had problems with the defintion of “unclassified roads” and “paths”.> Based on your defintion any roads which are not accessable by 4x4 wheel> cars should be tagged as “path” (or as “tracks” if they only connect to> agricultural places), even if they are the only roads which connect> settlements. Is this correct?> > Please take a short look (if you do not mind and have the time to do so)> at a “OSM forum” discussion two years ago.> I mapped in Ethiopia mainly oin the municipality of “Yemezegn”.> There are several roads of different sizes there, as decribed in my> posting.> > A native Ethiopian did in-depth research in that area for his master> thesis and stated:> “According to the observation data, two Kebeles namely Yemezegn and> Gibtsawit are inaccessable by vehicles and hence, do not have easy access> to public transport.”> And it seems as if he meant inaccesable by all (normal, including 4x4)> vehicles.> If this is indeed true, should all roads be tagged as paths?> https://forum.openstreetmap. org/viewtopic.php?id=54917> > Any help and ideas would be greatly appreciated after this would help me a> lot for other mapping projects in Ethiopia and DR Congo (near the Lake> Tanganyika, where a lot of settlements only have access by vehicles via the> Lake).> > Thank you.> > Kind Regards,> > Ukundji> > > *From:* john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 29, 2017 1:38 AM> *To:* hot at openstreetmap.org> *Subject:* [HOT] Highway Tag Africa wiki> > I seem to recall some one posting recently that following discussion at> the SOTM Africa in Uganda 2017 some changes had been made to the wiki.> > Could some one highlight these.> > Thanks John> > ------------------------------> ______________________________ _________________> HOT mailing list> HOT at openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap. org/listinfo/hot> > > ______________________________ _________________> HOT mailing list> HOT at openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap. org/listinfo/hot> > -------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap. org/pipermail/hot/attachments/ 20170730/1f9c2546/attachment- 0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 03:20:36 -0700 (MST)From: mbranco <mbranco2 at gmail.com>To: hot at openstreetmap.orgSubject: [HOT] landuse=residential and routing problemsMessage-ID: <1501496436359-5900081.post at n8.nabble.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Doing remote mapping in Nigeria (project #2768), I've a very basic question(sorry, but I searched a lot in wiki pages and mailing lists, I didn't findanything about) : all highways (usually 'unclassified') connecting a village need to beconnected between them, for routing alghoritms?If so, and the village has no residential highways, have we to draw"virtual" roads (with highway=residential) inside the village to get theconnection? Please look at this picture [1] to have an example. Cheers,Marco [1]  https://drive.google.com/open? id= 0B65acVCG5NRQZ3VHTkFlaXR0RHM<https://drive.google.com/ open?id= 0B65acVCG5NRQZ3VHTkFlaXR0RHM>     --View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble. com/landuse-residential-and- routing-problems-tp5900081. htmlSent from the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap (HOT) mailing list archive at Nabble.com.   ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer ______________________________ _________________HOT mailing listHOT at openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap. org/listinfo/hot  ------------------------------ End of HOT Digest, Vol 89, Issue 25****************************** ***** 
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