[HOT] Checking validation work in TM3

john whelan jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
Sun Oct 22 11:06:36 UTC 2017

I would concur.  Currently there is one tile validated by a new user that
I've picked up making a few mistakes and I'd dearly love to find which tile
they validated just to go over it again.

The other points I would agree with also.

Note to Scott at the bottom of the project page is a link to github.  If
you add these to the issues tab then there is less likely hood they will be

TM3 is a big change and anytime you mess with an operational user interface
things don't always go smoothly.  A lot of it is very good but there are
one or two points that could do with a bit of attention.

Cheerio John

On 22 October 2017 at 05:44, Scott Davies <mr.scott.davies at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks again for taking the time to chat, Blake. Yes, you've identified
> the issue and some potential improvements. I think perhaps the single
> easiest solution would be to link to the task on the 'last activity' list.
> Cheers,
> Scott.
> On 22 Oct 2017 09:35, "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM" <blake.girardot at hotosm.org>
> wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> Thank you very much for the feedback. We chatted about this on slack
> and I just want to make clear and review to make sure I did not
> misunderstand, this is about finding validated tasks to review the
> validation work. We have had issues with new mappers validating task
> squares so Scott, you are trying to review "new validators" not "new
> mappers".
> We did not come up with a good way to do that, but identified some
> possible improvements we can make to support this critical use. We
> focused on some improvements to the stats page, like sortable columns
> and maybe adding a column or two to the mapper list to indicate their
> experience level.
> Thank you again for your time Scott.
> Respectfully,
> blake
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 3:14 AM, Scott Davies <mr.scott.davies at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > There's a lot I love about TM3, and hats off to those that put in the
> hard
> > work to make it happen.
> >
> > There are a few teething issues, though. eg. Many projects in the new TM
> are
> > still open to anyone to validate, so it's necessary to check that newer
> > validators are doing a good job. But this is more difficult than it was
> in
> > TM2.
> >
> > The problem is finding the squares they validated in order to review
> them.
> >
> > Hovering over 'start' next to the user's name on the main project page
> can
> > show you which task squares they've mapped, but not those they've
> validated.
> > The Activity & Stats page shows how many squares a user has validated
> (under
> > 'Contributions'), which allows us to figure out which newer users are
> > validating. So far, so good. However that list doesn't include any link
> to
> > the actual task.
> > The 'last activity' list similarly contains the information about who is
> > doing what in the project (and is expandable, unlike in TM2), but the
> > usefulness of that list is greatly undermined by the fact that, again,
> there
> > is no link to the task.
> > The 'Comments by users' list *does* provide a link to the specific task
> > square. However, where they've left a comment it's normally where they've
> > invalidated the square; but if we're checking their work we're generally
> > more interested in the ones they've validated (ie. possibly wrongly). And
> > those who aren't used to validating might not leave a comment at all, of
> > course.
> > Another option is to look at the user's profile page, which shows the
> number
> > of tasks mapped and validated, but again, this doesn't have a link to
> > specific tasks. (As an aside, in the list of projects on the user's page,
> > the totals are incorrect-- but perhaps that issue is already known).
> >
> >
> > Given all the above, I'm currently generally resorting to clicking
> randomly
> > on squares on the map, hoping to find one that the specific user I'm
> > interested in has validated-- very time-consuming.
> >
> > Have I missed something? There must be an easier way to do this?
> >
> >
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