[HOT] Checking validation work in TM3

Kretzer kretzer at gmx.net
Sun Oct 22 22:40:27 UTC 2017


Plus one. 
I also think a link on the "latest activity" list would be very useful. 
(By the way, is there a reason why this tab is hidden in the map? That looks a little strange to me)

"Last active" would also help to figure out if a new user is still around and likely to get the feedback in useful time. I think that's what you'd asked for before, and I agree that would be helpful  

Today I got some kind feedback by a user who validated two tasks and encouraged me to keep mapping. This user joined OSM a day ago and has 6 tasks mapped and 4 tasks validated ... :-)

Cheers
Kathi 

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Am 22.10.17 um 13:06 schrieb john whelan

> I would concur.  Currently there is one tile validated by a new user that
> I've picked up making a few mistakes and I'd dearly love to find which tile
> they validated just to go over it again.
> 
> The other points I would agree with also.
> 
> Note to Scott at the bottom of the project page is a link to github.  If
> you add these to the issues tab then there is less likely hood they will be
> forgotten.
> 
> TM3 is a big change and anytime you mess with an operational user interface
> things don't always go smoothly.  A lot of it is very good but there are
> one or two points that could do with a bit of attention.
> 
> Cheerio John
> 
> On 22 October 2017 at 05:44, Scott Davies <mr.scott.davies at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks again for taking the time to chat, Blake. Yes, you've identified
> > the issue and some potential improvements. I think perhaps the single
> > easiest solution would be to link to the task on the 'last activity' list.
> > Cheers,
> > Scott.
> >
> >
> > On 22 Oct 2017 09:35, "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM" <blake.girardot at hotosm.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Scott,
> >
> > Thank you very much for the feedback. We chatted about this on slack
> > and I just want to make clear and review to make sure I did not
> > misunderstand, this is about finding validated tasks to review the
> > validation work. We have had issues with new mappers validating task
> > squares so Scott, you are trying to review "new validators" not "new
> > mappers".
> >
> > We did not come up with a good way to do that, but identified some
> > possible improvements we can make to support this critical use. We
> > focused on some improvements to the stats page, like sortable columns
> > and maybe adding a column or two to the mapper list to indicate their
> > experience level.
> >
> > Thank you again for your time Scott.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > blake
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 3:14 AM, Scott Davies <mr.scott.davies at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > There's a lot I love about TM3, and hats off to those that put in the
> > hard
> > > work to make it happen.
> > >
> > > There are a few teething issues, though. eg. Many projects in the new TM
> > are
> > > still open to anyone to validate, so it's necessary to check that newer
> > > validators are doing a good job. But this is more difficult than it was
> > in
> > > TM2.
> > >
> > > The problem is finding the squares they validated in order to review
> > them.
> > >
> > > Hovering over 'start' next to the user's name on the main project page
> > can
> > > show you which task squares they've mapped, but not those they've
> > validated.
> > > The Activity & Stats page shows how many squares a user has validated
> > (under
> > > 'Contributions'), which allows us to figure out which newer users are
> > > validating. So far, so good. However that list doesn't include any link
> > to
> > > the actual task.
> > > The 'last activity' list similarly contains the information about who is
> > > doing what in the project (and is expandable, unlike in TM2), but the
> > > usefulness of that list is greatly undermined by the fact that, again,
> > there
> > > is no link to the task.
> > > The 'Comments by users' list *does* provide a link to the specific task
> > > square. However, where they've left a comment it's normally where they've
> > > invalidated the square; but if we're checking their work we're generally
> > > more interested in the ones they've validated (ie. possibly wrongly). And
> > > those who aren't used to validating might not leave a comment at all, of
> > > course.
> > > Another option is to look at the user's profile page, which shows the
> > number
> > > of tasks mapped and validated, but again, this doesn't have a link to
> > > specific tasks. (As an aside, in the list of projects on the user's page,
> > > the totals are incorrect-- but perhaps that issue is already known).
> > >
> > >
> > > Given all the above, I'm currently generally resorting to clicking
> > randomly
> > > on squares on the map, hoping to find one that the specific user I'm
> > > interested in has validated-- very time-consuming.
> > >
> > > Have I missed something? There must be an easier way to do this?
> > >
> > >
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