[HOT] Spam messages

[john whelan]

If it helps by rule of thumb is if you have a 1,000 edits to your name then
you know what you are doing so no feedback unless it needs correction.  If
you've mapped five tiles or less I usually give feedback except if its
mapathon mapping when there is very little time available in order to keep
up with the validation.

Cheerio John

On 29 October 2017 at 09:36, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> If you work by validating tiles on a project as they are done as I do so
> the tile is validated within a day or so and the project has 95% of the
> mapped tiles validated this isn't a problem.
>
> I do have a strong negative reaction to seeing the word awesome all over
> the place it might work in Chicago but it doesn't fit the culture of many
> people from other backgrounds.
>
> I have removed my email address so I no longer get these unwanted messages
> in my email.
>
> A lot of OSM mapping is done by a few mappers.  On a project I'm working
> on one mapper has mapped more than 120 tiles. Fine but with so many
> messages any feedback I might want to give them will get lost in the bulk
> of the messages.  The other objection to this is the time it takes to
> review and read the messages in Task Manager.  The more you map the more
> junk mail you get.
>
> A very unhappy validator.
>
> John
>
> On 29 October 2017 at 08:22, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
> blake.girardot at hotosm.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>> One of the main feedback items we got was that people received no
>> notifications of when their work was validated so that is why we
>> switched from sending a message to the users when their work was
>> validated instead of only when it was invalidated.
>>
>> They are probably going to stay and as I said, improved so when people
>> do not want to receive them anymore they can opt out of validation
>> emails/messages specifically.
>>
>> Typically spam is unsolicited emails, however, emails from the Tasking
>> Manager are fully opt-in. If you do not provide your email address,
>> you do not receive any emails. You can remove your email address at
>> anytime and you will no longer receive emails from the Tasking
>> Manager.
>>
>> As I said, eventually you will be able to opt in and out of different
>> types of emails/messages so you could choose to not receive messages
>> or emails when your tasks get validated.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Blake
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 1:06 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I think I've validated more than 10,000 tiles I would hate to think I'd
>> be
>> > responsible for 10,000 spam messages.
>> >
>> > These are meaningless and I think they should be stopped as quickly as
>> > possible.
>> >
>> > I apologise to any mappers that have received these as part of my
>> > validations.
>> >
>> > I will have to give consideration as to whether to continue to validate
>> > whilst these are being generated as I really do not want any part of
>> them.
>> >
>> > Cheerio John
>> >
>> > On 29 October 2017 at 07:49, Blake Girardot <bgirardot at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi John,
>> >>
>> >> Yes, the Tasking Manger sends an automated message each time a task is
>> >> validated.
>> >>
>> >> The wording of the automated message has been improved.
>> >>
>> >> The previous version of the Tasking Manager used to send an automated
>> >> message when a task was invalidated, but we have switched that to send
>> >> when they are validated.
>> >>
>> >> If you want to send a message when invalidating a task just use the @
>> >> to make direct one to the right person.
>> >>
>> >> Eventually there will be an opt out for the validation messages.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Blake
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 12:28 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > "John, this was an automated message after my validation, probably
>> from
>> >> > the
>> >> > Tasking manager.  Not one I wrote !  I received similar messages from
>> >> > validators on my tasks."
>> >> >
>> >> > What is going on please.  Am I generating these if so I'll stop
>> >> > validating.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks John
>> >> >
>> >> > On 29 October 2017 at 07:01, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Hi Johnwhelan I just validated your mapping on Task 14. Awesome
>> work!
>> >> >> Keep mapping :)"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Once maybe but seven identical messages this morning other than the
>> >> >> task
>> >> >> number?  These are coming in daily from different people and I'm not
>> >> >> happy
>> >> >> to receive them.  Combined with these come to my email address
>> which I
>> >> >> read
>> >> >> on multiple devices including ones that do not have access to HOT
>> and
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> get really annoying.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheerio John
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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