[HOT] Tracking vehicle movements

Daniele Cortesi dgcbin at gmail.com
Thu Jan 10 13:45:08 UTC 2019


For real time monitoring you could have a look at https://osmo.mobi/ I
can't find the english version of the website but the app has pretty good
reviews: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.OsMoDroid

Ciao,
dan

Il giorno gio 10 gen 2019 alle ore 12:50 Jorieke Vyncke <
jorieke.vyncke at gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Hi all,
>
> @Ivan that sounds interesting! Could you tell me more?
> The other suggestions are forwarded, thank you again. Last is looking at
> them and will feedback soon!
> He was already impressed what you collected: "Wow... thanks @Jorieke! Let
> me look into the feedback" was his reaction this morning.
>
> And to Donal his points: I'm not sure about the context in Zimbabwe, but
> from my point of view using a GPS tracking system is indeed on the one hand
> a system that serves as control mechanism for drivers, but on the other
> hand it also serves as planning and budgeting tool, and most importantly
> also for security purposes for our people in the car. This latest makes it
> also difficult to just share the GPS traces that our teams take. It is a
> way the security of our staff can be damaged, so not so straightforward.
>
> All the best,
>
> Jorieke
>
>
>
>
> Op do 10 jan. 2019 om 10:10 schreef Donal Hunt <donal.hunt at gmail.com>:
>
>> I would echo Laurent's words. Deploy the solution that you need and
>> figure out the funding issues. Doing something like SMS-based reporting or
>> emailing data around the place will just move the cost burden elsewhere, be
>> more brittle and probably not get you what you want at the end of the day.
>>
>> The initial problem statement seems to focus on how to verify the trust
>> that is being put in the partner undertaking the work. There are many many
>> ways to do that and technology is not always the answer. It would be
>> interesting to understand what other options have been identified and why
>> GPS-tracking has been decided on as the most effective means of delivering
>> the end result. If the GPS data being collected is also making it's way
>> back into the OSM ecosystem, that value should not be discounted.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Donal
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 21:19, Laurent Savaete <laurent at where.tf> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jorieke,
>>>
>>> What your question describes sounds like fleet management. I just found
>>> https://www.traccar.org/ which looks pretty well maintained (88
>>> contributors on github, latest code update only a few hours ago), is
>>> open-source and seems to provide exactly what you're after, without having
>>> to reinvent the wheel.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>>
>>> Laurent
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/01/2019 19:22, John Whelan wrote:
>>>
>>> In Windows you can use a script to copy the files, compress them and
>>> send them.
>>>
>>> Android should have something equivalent.  If not Microsoft Visual
>>> Studio 2017 can build something that will run on android.
>>>
>>> We seem to be forever seeing requests from students to write software
>>> for OSM and HOT as a project.
>>>
>>> This one is a natural.
>>>
>>> Enabling GPS tracking is heavy on a battery life but you can buy power
>>> packs quite cheaply to extend the life.  I wouldn't connect it to the car
>>> battery, the voltage fluctuates to much and it will shorten the smartphone
>>> life down.
>>>
>>> So basically you want a program that will grab the GPS tracks every x
>>> minutes and compress them.  Technically zip is fine but the problem with
>>> zips is they can carry malware so use something else and gmail won't accept
>>> them anyway.
>>>
>>> Then it should just email these back to the server.  There should be an
>>> API to allow the software to write to something like Gmail on the
>>> smartphone.
>>>
>>> When gmail finds a connection it will send the messages home.  No
>>> fingers needed other than to connect to Wifi for gmail.  This one is the
>>> simplest.
>>>
>>> https://developers.google.com/gmail/api/guides/sending has got the
>>> basics.
>>>
>>> The other way is to use the signal that the phone uses to connect to the
>>> mast.  There are 140 / 160 characters at the end of the packet which are
>>> unused.  This is the basis of SMS text messaging.  In Europe, North America
>>> phone plans often come with unlimited SMS text messaging, Africa maybe
>>> different.  The advantage is you can collect the data in real time.  The
>>> disadvantage is the store and forward method of email is a bit more robust.
>>>
>>> There are SMS APIs that will run on a smartphone but my impression is
>>> these vary according to the phone so an SMS based solution that ran on any
>>> phone might be more difficult to build but someone who knows more about SMS
>>> might be in a better position to sort something out.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> Jorieke Vyncke wrote on 2019-01-09 10:48 AM:
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for all your suggestions!
>>> I suppose easy to use is core, so options with manually copying traces
>>> is probably not the best solution.
>>> However I will forward all your suggestions to Last, and will leave it
>>> up to him to decide what is the best option for them on the ground!
>>>
>>> If there are more ideas, they still welcome :)
>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>
>>> Jorieke
>>>
>>> Op wo 9 jan. 2019 om 14:26 schreef Pierre BĂ©land <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jorieke
>>>>
>>>> There are small vehicule gps logger, some very precise reading various
>>>> satellite networks. I tried a Columbus. It did work very well but could not
>>>> replace the battery.
>>>>
>>>> Search simply for vehicule gps logger. This Ebay link show various
>>>> models, some with an USB connection and / or sim card.
>>>> https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_nkw=vehicle+gps+data+logger
>>>>
>>>> regard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pierre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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