[HOT] "area to be digitalised"

[Pete Masters]

Hi John and all, have asked around in HOT but no-one knows anything about
this so far (neither the tagging or the user)... Will shout if anything
comes up. Thanks for raising...

Pete

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 6:31 PM Philippe Verdy <verdyp at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree. If there are work to be done or to complete in any area
> delimited by an object (imprecise geometry, missing tags or
> unknown/uncertain value), there's a dedicated tag "fixme=*" tag or some
> subtags "fixme:*=*" if you want more space for different parts.
>
> A preliminary name (unsourced, approximative) may be given however, but
> you may also annotate with descriptive tags like "description=*" (intended
> to be read by humans, normally not rendered on maps, but possibly shown
> when clicking an object to show their details to the user e.g. in a popup,
> bubble, or side list of properties and all tags and subjects or related
> objects).
>
> Then humans can work on this and may be device some better tagging
> (possibly a generic one, plus some country-specific or project specific
> tags).
>
> If a name however is just vernacular, local, or abbreviated commonly but
> informally, you have other tags like "loc_name=*", "short_name=*". Don't
> put any "name=*" if it's only descriptive or generic (such as
> "name=cemetery", or "name=townhall", or "name=vocano") because they have
> dedicated tags. And don't confuse "name=*" with "ref=*" (e.g. road
> numbers), or "operator=*", or "brand=*".
> In OSM it's important to not pollute the important generic tag spaces: try
> be more precise with more qualifying tags.
> Also take care of not abusing capitals in "name=*": we don't want to force
> the emphasis, the rendering will decide ifg it wants to capitalize these
> names according to its stylesheets or its presentation rules for
> information panels: forced capitalization cannot be safely undone
> automatically because it is destroying meaningful semantics. Just use
> capitals for proper names/brands or conventional  abbreviations
> Be careful when importing legacy data sources (such as postal addresses
> which are often capitalized and frequently missing some diacritics or too
> much abbreviated): if possible try looking up around for the correctly
> decapitalized unabbreviated names (place abbreviations only in
> "short_name=*", not "name=*", unless theses are the standard form for
> brands or organizations)
> Various QA tools (like Osmose, or Ohsome) may however detect most of
> these issues, but not all of them.
>
> Le lun. 14 juin 2021 à 15:52, Mateusz Konieczny via HOT <
> hot at openstreetmap.org> a écrit :
>
>> name=area to be digitized
>> is incorrect, misuse of name tag and is not useful
>>
>> Such tag should be deleted
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/700049715
>> (I deleted entire object here as it was duplicating mapped location,
>> some can be repurposed as landuse)
>>
>> See
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Incorrect_tagging_for_the_renderer
>>
>> I m not sure is it useful, but it would be possible to create notes
>> See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes
>> But "this village has no buildings at all" is automatically detectable.
>>
>> If you spot such graffiti, please remove it.
>>
>> If it was added recently or user is still doing this - contacting someone
>> who added it is likely a good idea.
>>
>> Creating notes or adding fixme=
>> ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fixme ) may be also desirable,
>>
>> See https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=area%20to%20be%20digitized
>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=area%20to%20be%20digitized#map=18/14.00715/6.04317>
>> to find more cases of invalid entries in OSM data.
>>
>> Jun 14, 2021, 15:05 by jwhelan0112 at gmail.com:
>>
>> I'm seeing a number of settlements called "area to be digitalised" that
>> were so named some years ago.  In some cases they also have a settlement
>> name such as Roubabia Niger.  In fact Roubabia appears to have been named
>> more than once.
>>
>> I'm not specifically seeing a HOT task on them but has any one any ideas
>> about them?
>>
>> One is
>>
>> Roubabia niger | OpenStreetMap
>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Roubabia%20niger#map=14/13.6052/7.7637>
>>
>> Is there a protocol about when a name should be added to a settlement if
>> it is already named?
>>
>> Is there a protocol about the use of "area to be digitalised" and when it
>> should be removed?
>>
>> I assume they should be cleaned up at some point in time?
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>>
>>
>>
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