[HOT] "area to be digitalised"

[john whelan]

I changed some 40 in Niger to note rather than name.  I'm sure there are
more out there.  They were made by a number of different mappers at least
one of which hadn't been active for a year.  All I inspected appeared to
have their buildings mapped so it looked like it they were left over after
some sort of organised mapping.

I apologise for assuming it was HOT but wondered if you did have some sort
of protocol about tagging areas before putting them in task manager.

Thanks John


On Tue, Jun 15, 2021, 07:24 Pete Masters via HOT <hot at openstreetmap.org>
wrote:

> Hi John and all, have asked around in HOT but no-one knows anything about
> this so far (neither the tagging or the user)... Will shout if anything
> comes up. Thanks for raising...
>
> Pete
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 6:31 PM Philippe Verdy <verdyp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree. If there are work to be done or to complete in any area
>> delimited by an object (imprecise geometry, missing tags or
>> unknown/uncertain value), there's a dedicated tag "fixme=*" tag or some
>> subtags "fixme:*=*" if you want more space for different parts.
>>
>> A preliminary name (unsourced, approximative) may be given however, but
>> you may also annotate with descriptive tags like "description=*" (intended
>> to be read by humans, normally not rendered on maps, but possibly shown
>> when clicking an object to show their details to the user e.g. in a popup,
>> bubble, or side list of properties and all tags and subjects or related
>> objects).
>>
>> Then humans can work on this and may be device some better tagging
>> (possibly a generic one, plus some country-specific or project specific
>> tags).
>>
>> If a name however is just vernacular, local, or abbreviated commonly but
>> informally, you have other tags like "loc_name=*", "short_name=*". Don't
>> put any "name=*" if it's only descriptive or generic (such as
>> "name=cemetery", or "name=townhall", or "name=vocano") because they have
>> dedicated tags. And don't confuse "name=*" with "ref=*" (e.g. road
>> numbers), or "operator=*", or "brand=*".
>> In OSM it's important to not pollute the important generic tag spaces:
>> try be more precise with more qualifying tags.
>> Also take care of not abusing capitals in "name=*": we don't want to
>> force the emphasis, the rendering will decide ifg it wants to capitalize
>> these names according to its stylesheets or its presentation rules for
>> information panels: forced capitalization cannot be safely undone
>> automatically because it is destroying meaningful semantics. Just use
>> capitals for proper names/brands or conventional  abbreviations
>> Be careful when importing legacy data sources (such as postal addresses
>> which are often capitalized and frequently missing some diacritics or too
>> much abbreviated): if possible try looking up around for the correctly
>> decapitalized unabbreviated names (place abbreviations only in
>> "short_name=*", not "name=*", unless theses are the standard form for
>> brands or organizations)
>> Various QA tools (like Osmose, or Ohsome) may however detect most of
>> these issues, but not all of them.
>>
>> Le lun. 14 juin 2021 à 15:52, Mateusz Konieczny via HOT <
>> hot at openstreetmap.org> a écrit :
>>
>>> name=area to be digitized
>>> is incorrect, misuse of name tag and is not useful
>>>
>>> Such tag should be deleted
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/700049715
>>> (I deleted entire object here as it was duplicating mapped location,
>>> some can be repurposed as landuse)
>>>
>>> See
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Incorrect_tagging_for_the_renderer
>>>
>>> I m not sure is it useful, but it would be possible to create notes
>>> See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes
>>> But "this village has no buildings at all" is automatically detectable.
>>>
>>> If you spot such graffiti, please remove it.
>>>
>>> If it was added recently or user is still doing this - contacting someone
>>> who added it is likely a good idea.
>>>
>>> Creating notes or adding fixme=
>>> ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fixme ) may be also desirable,
>>>
>>> See
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=area%20to%20be%20digitized
>>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=area%20to%20be%20digitized#map=18/14.00715/6.04317>
>>> to find more cases of invalid entries in OSM data.
>>>
>>> Jun 14, 2021, 15:05 by jwhelan0112 at gmail.com:
>>>
>>> I'm seeing a number of settlements called "area to be digitalised" that
>>> were so named some years ago.  In some cases they also have a settlement
>>> name such as Roubabia Niger.  In fact Roubabia appears to have been named
>>> more than once.
>>>
>>> I'm not specifically seeing a HOT task on them but has any one any ideas
>>> about them?
>>>
>>> One is
>>>
>>> Roubabia niger | OpenStreetMap
>>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Roubabia%20niger#map=14/13.6052/7.7637>
>>>
>>> Is there a protocol about when a name should be added to a settlement if
>>> it is already named?
>>>
>>> Is there a protocol about the use of "area to be digitalised" and when
>>> it should be removed?
>>>
>>> I assume they should be cleaned up at some point in time?
>>>
>>> Thanks John
>>>
>>>
>>>
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