[HOT] "area to be digitalised"

Tue Jun 15 13:49:03 UTC 2021

No worries, John. Def worth checking... Not a workflow I recognise, but
agree with your theory...

This list is a good place to check anyway 🙂

P

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021, 13:25 john whelan, <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I changed some 40 in Niger to note rather than name.  I'm sure there are
> more out there.  They were made by a number of different mappers at least
> one of which hadn't been active for a year.  All I inspected appeared to
> have their buildings mapped so it looked like it they were left over after
> some sort of organised mapping.
>
> I apologise for assuming it was HOT but wondered if you did have some sort
> of protocol about tagging areas before putting them in task manager.
>
> Thanks John
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021, 07:24 Pete Masters via HOT <hot at openstreetmap.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi John and all, have asked around in HOT but no-one knows anything about
>> this so far (neither the tagging or the user)... Will shout if anything
>> comes up. Thanks for raising...
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 6:31 PM Philippe Verdy <verdyp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree. If there are work to be done or to complete in any area
>>> delimited by an object (imprecise geometry, missing tags or
>>> unknown/uncertain value), there's a dedicated tag "fixme=*" tag or some
>>> subtags "fixme:*=*" if you want more space for different parts.
>>>
>>> A preliminary name (unsourced, approximative) may be given however, but
>>> you may also annotate with descriptive tags like "description=*" (intended
>>> to be read by humans, normally not rendered on maps, but possibly shown
>>> when clicking an object to show their details to the user e.g. in a popup,
>>> bubble, or side list of properties and all tags and subjects or related
>>> objects).
>>>
>>> Then humans can work on this and may be device some better tagging
>>> (possibly a generic one, plus some country-specific or project specific
>>> tags).
>>>
>>> If a name however is just vernacular, local, or abbreviated commonly but
>>> informally, you have other tags like "loc_name=*", "short_name=*". Don't
>>> put any "name=*" if it's only descriptive or generic (such as
>>> "name=cemetery", or "name=townhall", or "name=vocano") because they have
>>> dedicated tags. And don't confuse "name=*" with "ref=*" (e.g. road
>>> numbers), or "operator=*", or "brand=*".
>>> In OSM it's important to not pollute the important generic tag spaces:
>>> try be more precise with more qualifying tags.
>>> Also take care of not abusing capitals in "name=*": we don't want to
>>> force the emphasis, the rendering will decide ifg it wants to capitalize
>>> these names according to its stylesheets or its presentation rules for
>>> information panels: forced capitalization cannot be safely undone
>>> automatically because it is destroying meaningful semantics. Just use
>>> capitals for proper names/brands or conventional  abbreviations
>>> Be careful when importing legacy data sources (such as postal addresses
>>> which are often capitalized and frequently missing some diacritics or too
>>> much abbreviated): if possible try looking up around for the correctly
>>> decapitalized unabbreviated names (place abbreviations only in
>>> "short_name=*", not "name=*", unless theses are the standard form for
>>> brands or organizations)
>>> Various QA tools (like Osmose, or Ohsome) may however detect most of
>>> these issues, but not all of them.
>>>
>>> Le lun. 14 juin 2021 à 15:52, Mateusz Konieczny via HOT <
>>> hot at openstreetmap.org> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> name=area to be digitized
>>>> is incorrect, misuse of name tag and is not useful
>>>>
>>>> Such tag should be deleted
>>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/700049715
>>>> (I deleted entire object here as it was duplicating mapped location,
>>>> some can be repurposed as landuse)
>>>>
>>>> See
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Incorrect_tagging_for_the_renderer
>>>>
>>>> I m not sure is it useful, but it would be possible to create notes
>>>> See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes
>>>> But "this village has no buildings at all" is automatically detectable.
>>>>
>>>> If you spot such graffiti, please remove it.
>>>>
>>>> If it was added recently or user is still doing this - contacting
>>>> someone
>>>> who added it is likely a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> Creating notes or adding fixme=
>>>> ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fixme ) may be also desirable,
>>>>
>>>> See
>>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=area%20to%20be%20digitized
>>>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=area%20to%20be%20digitized#map=18/14.00715/6.04317>
>>>> to find more cases of invalid entries in OSM data.
>>>>
>>>> Jun 14, 2021, 15:05 by jwhelan0112 at gmail.com:
>>>>
>>>> I'm seeing a number of settlements called "area to be digitalised" that
>>>> were so named some years ago.  In some cases they also have a settlement
>>>> name such as Roubabia Niger.  In fact Roubabia appears to have been named
>>>> more than once.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not specifically seeing a HOT task on them but has any one any
>>>> ideas about them?
>>>>
>>>> One is
>>>>
>>>> Roubabia niger | OpenStreetMap
>>>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Roubabia%20niger#map=14/13.6052/7.7637>
>>>>
>>>> Is there a protocol about when a name should be added to a settlement
>>>> if it is already named?
>>>>
>>>> Is there a protocol about the use of "area to be digitalised" and when
>>>> it should be removed?
>>>>
>>>> I assume they should be cleaned up at some point in time?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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