[Imports] How to run Java shp-to-osm?

[Serge Wroclawski]

Kevin,

While Sam isn`t president, he is bringing up an important point.

I've just come back from SoTM and so much of what was discussed was
due to well-intention imports and the problems they cause.

No one is saying imports shouldn't happen, but that when they do
happen, they need to be done with the utmost care, involving several
dimensions:

* Licensing
* Tagging
* Data simplification
* Object representation/simplification
* Work duplication
* Handling failures

And most of those really need community involvement to be done right.

I *think* that was Sam's point.

- Serge

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Kevin Peat <kevin at kevinpeat.com> wrote:
> I have a bad memory but I don't seem to remember voting you in as OSM
> president.
>
> I used this tool to help import some OS waterway data for my local area
> which there is no way I could survey on foot. Importing data is not always a
> bad thing and can add a lot of richness to the map especially in rural areas
> where a lot of essential map features (woodland, waterways, etc.) can be
> hard/impossible to survey yourself.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> On 12 July 2010 11:15, Sam Vekemans <acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Why do people still insist on converting, and directly importing?
>>
>> It makes more sence to 1) Convert the file
>> 2) make the .osm files available
>> 3) tell the community about it, so others can take a look before the
>> most local people to the data actually 'copy it in' to osm.
>>
>> Every effort should be made to contact Local area mappers, sharing
>> with them that data is available. And giving them the chance to work
>> on it.
>>
>> Converting the entire dataset to .osm format & sharing where people
>> can find it. Makes more sence.
>>
>> Yes! it takes more time this way, but the community is built by local
>> area mappers, not 'remote mappers'.
>>
>> There is a difference between 'helping local mappers' and 'dropping
>> data in without them knowing'.
>>
>> I (for 1) no longer plan on 'plopping data in', instead focus on just
>> mapping the area that i plan on actually going.
>>
>> Garmin Maps can be made directly from OSM files, so its not needed to
>> have it in the database so fast. (which is what im now doing with the
>> CanVec .osm files as they continue to be available)
>>
>> ~ a general comment, not at anyone in particular.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sam
>>
>> On 7/12/10, Kevin Peat <kevin at kevinpeat.com> wrote:
>> > I recently used v0.7.1 on Ubuntu 10.04 and it worked great.
>> >
>> > Kevin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11 July 2010 20:58, Ian Dees <ian.dees at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Alan Millar <am12 at bolis.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I'm interested in importing NHD for my area.  I came across this
>> >>> message:
>> >>>
>> >>> > The shp-to-osm Java app I wrote has a more complete set of NHD
>> >>> > conversion rules
>> >>>
>> >>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shp-to-osm.jar
>> >>>
>> >>> But I can't seem to get it to work.  The wiki instructions appear
>> >>> out-of-date.
>> >>>
>> >>> The zip file download links don't work (404), so I did the svn
>> >>> checkout, figuring I could compile it with Eclipse per the
>> >>> instructions.  The eclipse maven instructions don't work for me
>> >>> either;
>> >>> the link at m4eclipse.sonatype.org appears dead.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm trying this on ubuntu 10.04.  Anyone got this to run recently?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> This is a convergence of two problems: 1) I didn't write the wiki page
>> >> and
>> >> 2) I am slowly switching from my privately-hosted SVN server to Github.
>> >>
>> >> The more recent code is here: http://github.com/iandees/shp-to-osm
>> >>
>> >> I just updated the wiki page.
>> >>
>> >> To answer your question though, you should be able to get it to run by:
>> >>
>> >> 1. download the .zip release file
>> >> 2. unzip it somewhere
>> >> 3. open a command prompt/terminal and cd to the newly-created directory
>> >> 4. run something like "java -jar shp-to-osm-0.8.2-with-dependencies.jar
>> >> ..." looking at the readme for arguments.
>> >>
>> >> If you are unfamiliar with Java or otherwise can't get it to run, feel
>> >> free
>> >> to send me a direct e-mail.
>> >>
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