[Imports] Buildings & Address in Washington, DC, USA.

[Katie Filbert]

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Ian Dees <ian.dees at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Katie Filbert <filbertk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:04 AM, Alex Barth <alex at mapbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> - Make sure expectations of all involved are clear. This is something I
>>> could have done a better job of. For instance, that we at Mapbox were going
>>> to engage very directly in the upload process wasn't fully clear for
>>> everyone. At the same time I think it was important for us to initiate this
>>> import having the human resources to finish it up. There are already too
>>> many imports that aren't finished.
>>>
>>
>> I think it's better to take time and have the community more directly
>> engaged vs. paid folks.
>>
>>
>>
>>>  - An import is actually not all that conducive to be a community
>>> building project, especially not a large one. Imports are technically
>>> complex, require experience with OpenStreetMap and commitment by those
>>> involved. Community involvement is absolutely clutch, at the same time
>>> doing an entire import is grinding work so people will loose interest over
>>> time.
>>>
>>>
>> Not convinced that the community can't handle the task.  Task manager is
>> ideal to split up the work and is motivating.
>>
>>
>>
>>> At this point the NYC import is almost done in terms of data added. We
>>> are now doing additional rounds of validation. As always it is open for
>>> participation: http://tasks.openstreetmap.us/job/2
>>>
>>
>> it's quite discouraging to get involved when paid mappers are involved,
>> imho
>>
>
> i'd like to point out that involving community in the import is *not* a
> great way to build community. As we saw with the NYC (and I saw with the
> Chicago), new (and even experienced) mappers are put off by the tedious
> work behind a "community import". What's more, if they happen to do
> something wrong the first interaction they get from the greater OSM
> community is probably a nasty note from the DWG telling them to stop
> mapping or be banned.
>

Not convinced this is always the case


>
> No, the most effective approach I've seen is to have as few people run the
> actual import process as possible (it was just me in Chicago)
>

OK if it's a few volunteer community people :)

Cheers,
Katie



> and then get the community excited about the resulting data as it pops up
> around them. Run events that fill in the address and POI, correct the
> existing POI if there are any, fill in roads that are missing, etc. The
> on-the-ground mapping work that is now made vastly easier because there are
> more data to use as reference is what makes the community excited and
> interested in OSM.
>
> -Ian
>



-- 
Katie Filbert
filbertk at gmail.com
@filbertkm / @wikimediadc / @wikidata
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